Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill?

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Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - Marcus Mummius - 11-03-2008

Valete,

I'm doing research about a certain type A pugio sheath.

You can see a reconstruction by Erik Lechl here:

[Image: 141252010206_rmp1.jpg]

On his website it is written that this sheath was found at Vindonissa (Switzerland). I found the sheath in J. Obmann's book (Studien zu rÃ¶mische Dolchscheiden des 1. Jahrhunderts n. Chr.) and it is said there to have been found at Hod Hill (UK).

I know there are some mistakes in Obmann so I'm not sure who is right. Does someone know?

Also in the description in Obmann's book I read that the enamel found on this scabbard was yellow, whereas Lechl used red enamel on his reproduction. Yellow enamel together used together with brass would not make for a great colour contrast. What I'm wondering about is if the yellow enamel was originaly red and became yellow through deterioration or if it really was yellow. Does anyone have info on this?

Valete,
Falco

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - lucius Gellius cuniculus - 11-03-2008

This pugio come in effect from Hod Hill (Dorset). You can see the original artefact on this photo (from Roma Vitrix) - lenght 33.6 cm, with inlaid brass and enamel :

[Image: pvgionespvgiones25ha5.jpg]

(Â© The Trustees of The British Museum)

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - Marcus Mummius - 11-03-2008

Thanks! I've sent you a PM.

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-04-2008

BTW, who is Erik Lechl? Eric Konigs site comes up when I search this name....I assume it is his work to which you refer?

Hod Hill Dagger - Celer - 11-04-2008

Salve Falco,

This does look suspiciously like the Hod Hill dagger and scabbard. The enamel on the original scabbard is yellow. I don't know about potential discolouration of the enamel though, as another scabbard recovered from the same site still had clearly red enamel.

Vale,

Celer.

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - Peroni - 11-04-2008

Quote:BTW, who is Erik Lechl? Eric Konigs site comes up when I search this name....

Erik Lechtl took Ira's surname when they married - so now he is a KÃ¶nig! :wink:

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-04-2008

Quote:
Quote:BTW, who is Erik Lechl? Eric Konigs site comes up when I search this name....

Erik Lechtl took Ira's surname when they married - so now he is a KÃ¶nig! :wink:

Ahhh, interesting twist! It is a cool name for sure! :lol:

Re: Type A pugio scabbard from Vindonissa or Hod Hill? - M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 11-05-2008

There are a few pugiones here that you may want to look at.