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New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - John Conyard - 11-13-2011
While at The Original Re-enactment Market on Friday I picked up a new red bronze Apulo-Corinthian helmet from the early 5th century from Adrian at http://www.armamentaria.com/store/
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Such helmets often are decorated by boars etc.
http://www.roman-reenactor.com/apulo-corinthian%20helmet.html
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I understand it is from DSC. Perhaps the first nicely decorated archaic helmet readily available on the market.
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Virilis - 11-13-2011
Very nice indeed
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Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-13-2011
Yes, very nice indeed!
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Darth_Roach - 11-13-2011
Nice. Italic armor designs are always interesting.
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - caiusbeerquitius - 11-13-2011
Quote:Perhaps the first nicely decorated archaic helmet readily available on the market.Archaic? What makes you think the Apulo-Corinthians are archaic?
Thanks for the pic and info. How much was the helmet? I want one :-)
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - John Conyard - 11-14-2011
The Archaic period in Greece is generally thought of as around 800 BC to 480 BC. This helmet dates to around 520 BC to 480 BC so I classed it as Archaic. :wink:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dpd/italica/apcor/apcor.html
You may beleive the helmet is later, http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=q2BRjL9rBWkC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=apulia+corinthian&source=bl&ots=6k63egHOtz&sig=vl5mEmRYu-Sb-1L639-XK0kZeJg&hl=en&ei=6BfATvGeHofi8QO0xf2ABA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=apulia%20corinthian&f=false
but I feel we should be more conservative and perhaps not so proscriptive.
PS Did you get the PM I sent you on gladiator equipment last week........
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - caiusbeerquitius - 11-14-2011
Quote:This helmet dates to around 520 BC to 480 BC so I classed it as Archaic.Ahhhh... Get it.
I was wondering, since "archaic" implied "Greek" to me, and it is not a greek helmet... ;-)
PM: No, none in my inbox... :-(
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-14-2011
These were worn in the later republic were they not?
Roman Triarii?
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - John Conyard - 11-14-2011
Ha ha I see, you have no issue with the date but the terminology. :-D
The links I gave will give you some nice distribution maps of the finds. The Apulo-Corinthian is also known as the Italo-Corinthian, Etrusco-Corinthian,Pseudo-Corinthian, Corinthian parade helmet,Greek helmet of Miglionico Basilicata type I or just bloody ugly! Take you pick.
We sent a message via your website which seems to be dead. We were after the current costs of gladiator equipment. Send them by PM if it is easier.
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Theodosius the Great - 11-14-2011
Congratulations, John.
What a gorgeous helmet.
I'm really curious how one can attach the rivets to the crest pin like that. There doesn't seem like there's enough space to wield a hammer.
~Theo
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-14-2011
This helmet looks gorgeous John. It really seems odd to me that DSC has made this. Can you post any photos of how it looks worn?
Khaire
Giannis
EDIT: i just did a little "research" and i saw the steel prototype of this helmet on the DSC facebook page. They don't have it in their blog...
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-14-2011
Quote:
I'm really curious how one can attach the rivets to the crest pin like that. There doesn't seem like there's enough space to wield a hammer.
~Theo
Possibly with a long punch and a hammer? the helmet backed up from the outside on a rest of sorts?
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - John Conyard - 11-15-2011
Can you post any photos of how it looks worn?
Soon. I am riding as a Avar and doing Vikings (with a dash of Khasar) this week. It will all be very eastern. Then a film shoot as a late Roman (they will never catch on) on Saturday. Sunday maybe.
And ....... I put a crest in the holder. The crest box was covered in felt which gently forced the crest holder apart holding the crest in place. It worked for three hours until the crest holder gave up with metal fatigue and an arm fell off. Hmmmm.
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - John Conyard - 11-21-2011
I got to wear the helmet today on a cold wet day north of Halifax.
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I padded it out with felt and wore a felt pilos as well. I added two holes to fasten as seen on many of the originals. It was secure on my head and very spacious compared to other Corinthian helmets.
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The crest holder is thin and liable to break but they may get better. You can rivet it on with a long punch and hammer.
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The helmet leaves my neck exposed unless I am looking down. But it is a pretty piece.
Re: New Apulo-Corinthian helmet - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-21-2011
Ok this is new to me! I never realised the apulo Corinthian came so far down over the
Head to make the eyes functional. It has always appeared they were
Only decorative on these!