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FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - tlclark - 09-18-2006
with scenes of the soldiers sleeping at the tomb of Christ!
I want one!!
Travis
http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/his ... vory03.gif
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - FAVENTIANVS - 09-18-2006
6th century?
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - Martin Moser - 09-18-2006
Very nice - do you have any bibliographical (or other) details on it, Travis?
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - caiusbeerquitius - 09-18-2006
I could make one, if you want. Not cheap, though. PM me, if you want.
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - tlclark - 09-19-2006
Actually, iconographically it looks most like a 4th-5th century model.
Here's a comparable ivory diptych, same iconography:
http://www.udel.edu/ArtHistory/nees/209/images/4-12.jpg
(Incidentally, this is from Lawrence Nees website - FYI Nees is reevaluating all so-called "barbarian" art. His article is forthcoming. He is an expert at 4-6th C. fibulae! Can't wait!)
I have no info, only an image from that website.
Here's the site:
http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/his ... hlberg.htm
Perhaps Muhlberger knows its provenance.
As for making one, I've already got my wife on it. She makes polymer clay jewelry and I think she can make a reasonable ivory substitute.
Travis
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - FAVENTIANVS - 09-19-2006
Scroll down...
http://111935.aceboard.fr/111935-1728-2 ... oucles.htm
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - Crispvs - 09-19-2006
Is it just me or are the poses and the general symetry of the piece reminiscent of some of the plates from the Sutton Hoo helmet and some of the Vendell helmets?
Crispvs
Re: FABULOUS late period ivory buckle... - tlclark - 09-19-2006
Quote:Is it just me or are the poses and the general symetry of the piece reminiscent of some of the plates from the Sutton Hoo helmet and some of the Vendell helmets?
Crispvs
It's not just you. Stylisitically it is more in line with 6th & 7th C.
The iconography is definitely 4th C., right down to the little cupola on christ's tomb. Based on that I would date it earlier but you're right.
could it be a 6th C. artist looking at a 4th C. diptych?
hmmm.