03-06-2004, 01:49 PM
I dont think ive seen this "new" tunic sighting myself, but it sounds interesting. Exactly what shade of red is shown? is it the familiar salmon pink that we see all to often on military frescoes in the later empire? I do wonder whether the pink tunics we do see are either<br>
i)simply a result of the artists palette<br>
ii) a representation of well seasoned faded red tunics<br>
iii) originally pink in the first place.<br>
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It is unfortunate that many of the waterlogged woolen madder dyed fragments do not retain their original colour, as madder can be used to produce a whole spectrum of shades, whether you want it to or not!<br>
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Its great if we can freshen the debate by adding more evidence, though im not at all sure we can identify these figures as military by their cloaks. Correct me if i'm wrong but im sure i've seen the paenula depicted on hundreds on civilian stelae in North west europe.<br>
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Incidentally, I've seen how mucky white tunics can get with armour, especially under hamata, but these seldom had arming doublets over the top of them, which is something many of us leave out. <p></p><i></i>
i)simply a result of the artists palette<br>
ii) a representation of well seasoned faded red tunics<br>
iii) originally pink in the first place.<br>
<br>
It is unfortunate that many of the waterlogged woolen madder dyed fragments do not retain their original colour, as madder can be used to produce a whole spectrum of shades, whether you want it to or not!<br>
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Its great if we can freshen the debate by adding more evidence, though im not at all sure we can identify these figures as military by their cloaks. Correct me if i'm wrong but im sure i've seen the paenula depicted on hundreds on civilian stelae in North west europe.<br>
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Incidentally, I've seen how mucky white tunics can get with armour, especially under hamata, but these seldom had arming doublets over the top of them, which is something many of us leave out. <p></p><i></i>
