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Roman Tattoos
#1
I know this has been discussed before, but i want to ask in a slightly different light, i know there is various evidence for roman legionary tattoo's... But does anyone have any designs? dont have to be too "authentic" but has anyone in the form got it done? Would just like to see.. im not really keen on tattoos.. but im warming to the idea of getting on my upper arm / back of my shoulder... of a roman eagle..

It'd definatly be a roman eagle with its talons out, cluching a scroll with "Fortes fortuna adiuvat". across the scroll... and a wreath up both sides with SPQR...

Sad i know Smile )
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#2
I'm going for a wolf & twins on the upper arm.

Typical mid-40's crisis thing in my case :wink: (plus most of my mates are getting them it seems, and I feel left out)
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#3
Jim, I never knew a man in his 40s who got a tattoo that resented it in his 140s. :lol:
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Quote:I know this has been discussed before, but i want to ask in a slightly different light, i know there is various evidence for roman legionary tattoo's... But does anyone have any designs? dont have to be too "authentic" but has anyone in the form got it done? Would just like to see.. im not really keen on tattoos.. but im warming to the idea of getting on my upper arm / back of my shoulder... of a roman eagle..

It'd definatly be a roman eagle with its talons out, cluching a scroll with "Fortes fortuna adiuvat". across the scroll... and a wreath up both sides with SPQR...

Sad i know Smile )

I have been working on tha for some time, what a conicidence... :lol:
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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Lucius Duccius Rufinus:2dwyo3r5 Wrote:I know this has been discussed before, but i want to ask in a slightly different light, i know there is various evidence for roman legionary tattoo's... But does anyone have any designs? dont have to be too "authentic" but has anyone in the form got it done? Would just like to see.. im not really keen on tattoos.. but im warming to the idea of getting on my upper arm / back of my shoulder... of a roman eagle..

It'd definatly be a roman eagle with its talons out, cluching a scroll with "Fortes fortuna adiuvat". across the scroll... and a wreath up both sides with SPQR...

Sad i know Smile )

I have been working on tha for some time, what a conicidence... :lol:

Byron, that particular tattoo? really? I have a couple of good artist friends, will need to get them on the scene to design me something good! Wink
Lucius Duccius Rufinus Aka Kevin Rhynas.

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#6
One of my classmates has the Chi Rho circumscribed by the phrase 'in hoc signo vinces'. It is pretty freakin' sweet. 8)
John Baker

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#7
I'm working on an armband that is incorporating the hollywood SPQR and some japanese kanji:

Final version:
____________________________________________________________
Magnus/Matt
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#8
Just found this- quoted in The Roman Cavalry by Dixon and Southern (page 84) - from the sixth century doctor Aetius.

"They call "tattoos" that which is inscribed on the face or some other part ofthe body, for example on the hands of soldiers, and they use the following ink (followed by the recipe which combined Egyptian pine wood (especially the bark), corroded bronze, gall and vitriol with leek juice- which was also used to clean the skin). The design was pricked into the skin with pointed needles 'until blood is drawn', and then the ink was rubbed on.

Another translation of Aetius ( I don't have the original) is :-

" Stigmates are the marks that are made on the face and other parts of the body. We see such marks on the hands of soldiers. To perform the operation they use ink made according to this formula:

Egyptian pine wood (acacia) and especially the bark, one pound; corroded bronze, two ounces; gall, two ounces; vitriol, one ounce. Mix well and sift.

Grind the corroded bronze with vinegar and mix it with the other ingredients to make a powder. Soak the powder in two parts of water and one part of leek juice and mix thoroughly.

First wash the place to be tattooed with leek juice and then prick in the design with pointed needles until blood is drawn. Then rub in the ink."

And to remove it when you've realised that that tattoo got drunkenly in a Pompeii bar pledging your allegiance to Mark antony was not such a good idea.......

"In cases where we wish to remove such tattoos, we must use the following preparations…There follow two prescriptions, one involving lime, gypsum and sodium carbonate, the other pepper, rue and honey. When applying firs clean the tattoos with nitre, smear them with resin of terebinth, and bandage for five days. On the sixth prick the tattoos with a pin, sponge away the blood, and then spread a little salt on the pricks, then after an interval of stadioi (presumably the time taken to travel this distance), apply the aforesaid prescription and cover it with a linen bandage. Leave it on five days, and on the sixth smear on some of prescription with a feather. The tattoos are removed in twenty days, without great ulceration and without a scar.â€
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#9
Off topic:
Did anyone here who knows Latin teach themselves?

If I ever did get a tattoo (which I doubt), it would either be a small cross in black ink, or SPQR also in black. Maybe a combo.
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#10
It would be theoretically possible to teach oneself Latin, but the pronounciation and accent rules would mean that you might be able to read, eventually, but speaking would be much more problematic.

There are several good textbooks for Latin, available on amazon and other book sites, but I would not necessarily recommend working it alone.

There is an online school called Academia Thules, that has several Latin courses you can study online, which require college level textbooks. It's not a snooze course, though, it's college level and moves right along. Still, it's a really good way to get started. And the price is right: free is good!
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Gaius Julius Caesar:3ii5vfrl Wrote:
Lucius Duccius Rufinus:3ii5vfrl Wrote:I know this has been discussed before, but i want to ask in a slightly different light, i know there is various evidence for roman legionary tattoo's... But does anyone have any designs? dont have to be too "authentic" but has anyone in the form got it done? Would just like to see.. im not really keen on tattoos.. but im warming to the idea of getting on my upper arm / back of my shoulder... of a roman eagle..

It'd definatly be a roman eagle with its talons out, cluching a scroll with "Fortes fortuna adiuvat". across the scroll... and a wreath up both sides with SPQR...

Sad i know Smile )

I have been working on tha for some time, what a conicidence... :lol:

Byron, that particular tattoo? really? I have a couple of good artist friends, will need to get them on the scene to design me something good! Wink

Yes, that very same idea, except across my back.
The thunderbolts, S.P.Q.R. banner....the slogan of course will be different.
I thought we had discussed it at archaolink that day.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#12
Quote:Yes, that very same idea, except across my back.
The thunderbolts, S.P.Q.R. banner....the slogan of course will be different.
I thought we had discussed it at archaolink that day.

we might have done i wasnt feeling too great the day of archaeolink, so dont remember too much! lol... But we'll have to discuss it, because i know Steve mentioned a tattoo aswell, could all get inked up at the same time, good group outing Wink haha

Quote:Off topic:
Did anyone here who knows Latin teach themselves?
In terms of teaching yourself latin, it depends, i'm learning piece by piece and it is possible to do this with text books and audio tapes etc. I'd say if you know any other latin based languages (spanish/italian/french) this may help also, in terms of structure etc. gets you out of the english grammer mindset.

Hope that helps and Demetrius, cheers for that website! very handy to know Smile

Magnus.. VERY nice tattoo.. Why the cross over with the Kanji and Latin? if you dont mind me asking?
Lucius Duccius Rufinus Aka Kevin Rhynas.

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For learning basic Latin, I recommend Teach Yourself Beginner's Latin by George Sharpley

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Yourself- ... lmf_tit_18

The CDs help a lot with pronunciation, it's funny and, very unusually, it also touches on Late pronunciation.
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#14
That sounds helpful.
As has been mentioned, it can be difficult to teach yourself, as the pronunciations are so 'un-english'.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#15
Quote:That sounds helpful.
As has been mentioned, it can be difficult to teach yourself, as the pronunciations are so 'un-english'.

Thats true, thats why i was saying that knowing a language thats latin based like spanish or italian definatly helps.. having known spanish which has a very similar from what i can see grammar structure
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