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Deciphering segmentae pattern
#1
I'm trying to recreate the segmentae (and clavi too) of the late Roman tunic from Egypt shown in Figure 52 on Page 63 of Graham Sumner's "Roman Military Dress" and Page 8 of Raffaele D'Amato's "Roman Military Clothing (3) AD 400-640," but I can't quite tell what some of the motifs are, namely the large figures in the center of the segmentae (are they human figures or floral?) and the small figures inside the circles on the segmentae and clavi (some look like diamonds, ducks and old-fashioned leather footballAmerican helmets!).

Any ideas on what they are? Or does anyone have a high-resolution or close-up image of the segmentae/clavi? D'Amato's book says it's in the Berlin Museum ... has anyone seen it in person?

Thanks!
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#2
Not sure how usefull this is to you, in a previous post I posted links to all three volumes of "Textiles from burying grounds in Egypt" Vol1.2&3 V&A.

they can be found here: http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/thread-...#pid319398

you may also try the Victoria and Albert Museum online site for a huge number of photos....

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/search/?off...D=8&slug=0
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#3
Wow, thanks for those links! I can start to see now, based off some of the more crisp designs I see on the Victoria & Albert site, how the leaf-shape is supposed to look.
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