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Finished Linothorax
#31
It did not curl up on the edges with the straight snips I used. I used "notching" shears for cutting the curved edge and it left tooling marks on that edge, but it was easily filed. The entire scale curved slightly when cutting a row of 8 scales out of the grid, but that curve spread over 8 scales was easily flattened for each individual scale. Bottom line is that it wasn't that difficult with 24 gauge phosphor bronze.
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#32
Quote:Bottom line is that it wasn't that difficult with 24 gauge phosphor bronze.

Have any Greek scales been found? 24 gauge seems very thin, but I'm no expert in bronze. as far as steel is concerned my 14th C medieval group tend to use at least 16 guage for armour (but then it tends to get hit a lot)! Big Grin

Your lino looks gorgeous though! Lauds from me! Big Grin
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#33
From everything I have seen from Roman scale finds, 24 gauge is actually on the thicker end of the range. 24 gauge is plenty strong. I was actually worried about it being too thin and after making it, I think I could have even gone a little lighter. I designed their shape off of pictures I have seen of Roman scales without ridges.

16 gauge is pretty thick, but I understand making the scales thicker for SCA since they have their own rules for minimum safety standards. I am confident the 24 gauge would be hard enough to penetrate alone, much less with 14 layers of linen behind them. :lol:

A major difference is that Greeks did NOT have to worry about war hammers, maces, flails, pole axes, etc. I have several polearms from Arms and Armor (Flail, War Hammer, Gothic Mace, Hungarian Pole Axe, Etc.), and they could even do damage to 16 gauge. I have hit 16 gauge commercial bronze sheet with some of them and it wasn't pretty to say the least. Best defense then is to not be there when the weapon hits!
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#34
Also remember that scales overlap. eg. the amour I'm working on will have three scales over every spot, That provides better protection than a single layer. I went with a mix of 22 and 24 gague because the scales looked fairly thick in the excavation reports, and I think it will be somewhat heavy.
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#35
What can I say that has not already been said - very good job!
John Baker

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#36
Hey guys, Chris said he made this thread not only to show off his own finished linothorax but also for other people to show theirs. So...lets see your armor!!! 8)
Khairete
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#37
I have actually been thinking the same thing. I would love to see some other people's armor. I am especially interested in seeing some of Ouragos Lino's since he has made so many.
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#38
wow. wow thats all i got. wow Smile
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#39
Well it's not a Linothorax but maybe we'll break the ice if someone starts :-) ) . The idea was to do something different, so I asked myself why not wearing a spoil of war as a Makedonian soldier? A good friend, who has the craftsmanship skills, implemented the idea to real. Based on some different pictures of findings he manufactured a Persian armour for me.
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The armours weight is about 10 Kg. The ornament shows Ahura-Mazda, without head instead with sunbeams. The ornament is dated 4. B.C. and came from an older museum catalog ("Art e Culture en Babylon", Louvre 1964). Ornament is made of brass and covered with beatgold.
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The dedication inscription says "Kallimachos kataleleuse mi en Issous", meaning "Kallimachos plundered me at Issos"
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#40
Nice! Are the plates wired together like Lamellar armor or are they attached to cloth behind the plates?
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#41
Opa!!! I see what is coming!!!! Awesome! Kallimaxos!

Quote:Kallimachos ********* mi en Issous"


Wow this last frase is almost like modern spanish, I understud clearly. Tongue
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#42
The plates are attached to leather, Chris.
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#43
Quote:Opa!!! I see what is coming!!!!
:mrgreen: of course you do!
Kallimachos a.k.a. Kurt

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#44
Congrats Kallimachos!!!!!!!! Photots of it being worn? For some reason i cannot add laudes,probably my pc's foult. Now i owe one to you and one to Kineas that i was unable to add yesterday. I love the inscription! 8)
Khaire
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Giannis K. Hoplite
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#45
I haven't done some photos yet Giannis but I will. We'll have our next camp in 9 days at www.heuneburg.de I'll post some after that event :-) )
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