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Bronze Petasos
#16
(05-04-2017, 11:30 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Nice looking repilca...
Gravefind from Athens dated around 400bc from: Antike Helme RGZM 1988 pg 159-160

And: https://www.academia.edu/5634533/Topogra..._Democracy

Thank you. 

If you look above I have included the information you reference as it is an unusual helmet. If there were not an ancient artifact found in situ I would not believe such a helmet was actually produced. In the cultural context of the time it makes sense as the Greeks were using metal helmets that appeared similar to their non-military hats.

(05-03-2017, 11:16 PM)Giannis K. Hoplite Wrote: Joe, I'm very jealous of your petassos helmet! Well done!
The original seems to have perforated edges (confirmed?). Someone had interestingly suggested that it might have had a felt cover on its outsider ao that it looked like an ordinary petasos with a bronze interior. Another possibility is that it had a leather or felt interior. A leather edging in my opinion would disrupt the nice shape of the helmet and add no benefit in such a wide brimmed hat.
Khaire
Giannis

Yes, as usual you are correct and it was a hard decision to leave out the perforated edge from the reproduction. I did not want to wait any longer and the holes can always be added later to match the original. 

I too have heard that this helmet could have been covered with felt to conceal that it was a military helmet and/or the holes were to hold a interior liner of some sort. Both are interesting questions.

I've already started using it!

Here I snuck it into a recent "Roman" presentation at a local school.

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Joe Balmos
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#17
(05-04-2017, 02:11 PM)Creon01 Wrote:
(05-04-2017, 11:30 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Nice looking repilca...
Gravefind from Athens dated around 400bc from: Antike Helme RGZM 1988 pg 159-160

And: https://www.academia.edu/5634533/Topogra..._Democracy

Thank you. 

If you look above I have included the information you reference as it is an unusual helmet. If there were not an ancient artifact found in situ I would not believe such a helmet was actually produced. In the cultural context of the time it makes sense as the Greeks were using metal helmets that appeared similar to their non-military hats.
Yes I appreciate that, however its only the reference that I could actually read that gives a date... and the Book "Antike Helme" is still available, where as the other two are unobtanium at least for me, so thought it may be usefull to know this third reference Wink
Heres an ABE link to the book, its has 550 pages extensively illustrated mostly with first class drawing and B/W photos highly recommended for any one interested in Ancient Greek, Italian, Roman, Gallic etc etc helmets....

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookD...ke%2BHelme

A New copy at a better price:
https://www.antikmakler.de/bv446
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#18
Thank you Crispianus, I ordered "Antike Helme" from https://www.antikmakler.de/bv446 as it is less expensive and new copy. Although I do not read German I can understand German pictures.
Joe Balmos
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