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Re: legionary breeches - Robert - 01-09-2007
Salve! The dirt eating Batavian horsemen (auxillia impression) would have to get away with braccea before the first quater of the second century, I presume? Get a clipeus, wear braccea/femenalia? :?
Re: legionary breeches - Caballo - 01-09-2007
"Too bad you didn't kill Peter Woodward and his crew and bury them where no one could find them." I know you're only joking, but please not! He's a nice guy, my kids used to be in school with his lad, and he also gave me his left over (and very battered) scuta!
Re: legionary breeches - James B. - 01-10-2007
Quote:I know you're only joking, but please not! He's a nice guy, my kids used to be in school with his lad, and he also gave me his left over (and very battered) scuta!
Yes yes strictly a joke on my part, sorry I am use to other boards where people are use to my humor. Roman is my new thing.
Re: legionary breeches - Caballo - 01-12-2007
No worries!!! And welcome (a bit late)
Cheers
Re: legionary breeches - Chuck Russell - 01-13-2007
http://www.caliverbooks.com/pageviewer. ... b=Patterns they sell the thorsjberg pants pattern. i think i added an inch or so to the seam up the legs
Re: legionary breeches - Franklin - 01-15-2007
Quote:Just to make clear that those long trousers with integral feet are not earlier than Third century AD, at least inside Roman Empire (They were posssibly used by Germannic people since an earlier date). Sorry Early Imperial folks! :wink:
The two patterns posted by Christian are from the two trousers recovered from Thorsberg. The Damendorf trousers (the ones I used for my replica)
are very similar we can say that the three garments are variants upon the same theme.
Aitor
Aitor,
Any pattern available for your Damendorf trousers?
Re: legionary breeches - aitor iriarte - 01-16-2007
Franklin,
Here goes the pattern of the Damendorf traouser as published on Karl Schlabow's book. I've corrected some big blunder, so it's reasonablily reliable.
![[Image: Damendorfpattern-1.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tribunus/Damendorfpattern-1.jpg)
As it was recovered, the trouser had had its integral socks worn out and removed. Judging from the preserved edges, I've reconstructed them as those on a normal baby romper suit.
The cloth loops (How do you call them in English?) for holding the belt are also missing and I've used those on the first Thorsberg trouser as a model.
Aitor
Re: legionary breeches - Franklin - 01-16-2007
Yep, "belt loops" is the common term used in English.
Many thanks.
Re: legionary breeches - James B. - 01-16-2007
This page has an image of the Damendorf trousers pattern laid out:
http://www.frojel.com/Documents/Document04.html
![[Image: CostumeE.gif]](http://www.frojel.com/cgi-bin/viewimage.cgi?/Images/Documents/General/Images/CostumeE.gif)
Another site: http://www.kostym.cz/Anglicky/VI_04_01.htm
Re: legionary breeches - aitor iriarte - 01-16-2007
"Belt loops", thanks Franklin
James,
Those patterns are based on the pattern by Schlabow. The semicircular element only existed on Schlabow's mind and must be eliminated from the pattern.
Aitor
Re: legionary breeches - Franklin - 01-16-2007
Quote:The semicircular element only existed on Schlabow's mind and must be eliminated from the pattern.
Aitor
Thanks...I wondered about that myself.
Re: legionary breeches - James B. - 01-16-2007
Good catch Aitor, I did not see that. I wish people would not alter patterns to make it easy for them, a square or rectangle will go in just as easy.
Re: legionary breeches - aitor iriarte - 01-16-2007
James, there is neither semicircle, nor square, nor rectangle. That frontal element simply didn't existed at all!!
BTW, I've edited my previous post with a better res pic.
Aitor
Re: legionary breeches - James B. - 01-16-2007
So then the two curved edges on the legs are just sew together without any gore? I wonder why people are adding them in.
Re: legionary breeches - aitor iriarte - 01-16-2007
That's it, James!
![[Image: pantsdetail.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tribunus/pantsdetail.jpg)
Aitor