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Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Marcus Mummius - 06-24-2008 I feel for all of you, it's terrible when such a thing happens! Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - avlvs arrivs diogenes - 06-24-2008 Dear Julie: Thank you so much for your response. I appreciate it and I look forward to chatting with you again soon. It's been quite a while. I'd like to extend an open invitation to you - and anyone else for that matter - to come and visit us at the Old Fort MacArthur Days in San Pedro, CA. I konw that this is short notice, but if you or anyone else is free on Sat and Sun, July 12/13th, this is one of the biggest reenactor events in the U.S. and the Romans are well-represented there, with Legions VI Victrix and IX Hispana. You are always welcome to come and enter as our guests. Valete, Arik / Dio Lessons learned - richsc - 06-25-2008 Lessons learned in how not to organize an event. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - varia cassia - 06-25-2008 Nice Understatement La Wren Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Ajantis - 06-25-2008 Salve! We are the auxilia team from Russia Moscow, and we have faced just the same problem that you did - no air tickets, the missing Andrea and many money and time wasted... Such a petty we can't go, meet all of you and participate in the event. Vale! Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - varia cassia - 06-25-2008 Wow, this is really smelling worse and worse. No one has tickets, we're all left stranded and no Andrea. I'm so sorry that you guys were left out in the cold too. I wonder how many more promised to go and then left stranded. Re: An open letter - trt - 06-25-2008 Quote:Dear friends and fellow reenactors, Hello, Mr. Greenberg. That comprehensive explanation shows me the complete picture. I am probably one of the very few people in Svishtov who know what happens. Majority still thinks there is going to be something huge and ever since it's been said that 100'000 people are expected everybody looks forward to the event. Now I feel so unhappy about all that and I think it may impact to you and all lagions who won't come and will hear about the mishandling of the organisators in a way they would never want to come to Svishtov. Excuse me if i sound arrogant, but i wish they hadn't invited you, instead of ridiculing you like this. Best regards from Svishtov and I wish you soon coming to Europe. Success!! organisators - trt - 06-25-2008 Sorry, but seems like I didn't know that organisator is not a real world.. i just typed the bulgarian word in Latinic. However, i meant organizers. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Praefectusclassis - 06-25-2008 An event that joins RAT members from the two sides of the Atlantic is exactly the kind of event we encourage. That it did not come out as promised is very sad indeed and on behalf of the RAT team I'd like to express our disappointment at this outcome. We too feel that the groups who were enticed to go to this event are entitled to an explanation by Mr.Cologni, so this thread shall stay open for him to post one. If this explanation is not forthcoming by July 2nd, he will be banned from the reenactment community that is RAT. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - varia cassia - 06-25-2008 Well, it could have been a very big event had things not been mishandled. At this point, however, I am more worried that it has gone past mishandling to criminal. It would be a shame if that is the case. All is not lost. We still have the internet which is a wonderful way to communication with our friends on both sides of the pond. Please do let us know how the event turns out. Pictures would be nice too. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Ajantis - 06-25-2008 I will go there on my own, and afterwards will write down how it was. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Magnus - 06-25-2008 Don't forget to add your real name to your signature Ajantis! Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - FlaviusCrispus - 06-25-2008 Quote:An event that joins RAT members from the two sides of the Atlantic is exactly the kind of event we encourage. That it did not come out as promised is very sad indeed and on behalf of the RAT team I'd like to express our disappointment at this outcome. We too feel that the groups who were enticed to go to this event are entitled to an explanation by Mr.Cologni, so this thread shall stay open for him to post one. If this explanation is not forthcoming by the July 2nd, he will be banned from the reenactment community that is RAT. We greatly appreciate this show of support, Jasper. I think everyone is, at the very least, entitled to an explanation. Are there any other members of Legio I Italica who are members of RAT? Maybe they can shed some light. Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Titus Cincinnatus - 06-26-2008 Avete omnibus. As I told in my presentation I'm a member of Legio I Italica. Sorry if I give a short answer only today but, despite mi daily connection with RAT, I didn't read anything. For us, those were terrible days indeed. I'll give a very short answer because, after the event, our Council will explain all the situation with all the details. First thing: all the things happened to you the same happened to us. Andrea Cologni acted with us in the same way he acted with you: great promises, great words but when the moment for the realization came, he disappeared. He left us with no tickets booked and with no contacts with the Bulgarian organization. What is worse is that he managed to collect some money from us and from the Bulgarians before he fled away. After a first decision by our group to cancel the event from our dates we were contacted by the organization in Bulgary and they told us that they wanted to organize the event as well. Sponsors and politics were already contacted by Cologni and they didn't afford a failure. They decided to try. They did a great effort, using their money to pay our tickets and arrangements and managing all the transports. But it was all done in 20/15 days only and you can imagine the confusion. We had enormous difficulties to find a place in the airplanes because in these days, in Bulgaria, it's a very important holiday and it was all booked. We had problems with the transportation of our equipment and so on. We didn't know how many groups the infamous Cologni contacted. For example, this Sunday, in an event in Italy near my city, in Brixellum (now Brescello, the city of the famous battle during the Four Emperor Year and city of Don Camillo&Peppone movies) we encountered a group of ladies who reenact a "Lupanare" who were sure to go to Novae, but they did not receive no tickets codes or other. They know only that they will start from Italy today. hock: I'm one of the "victim" of the situation. We find some place but we had to start from Italy yesterday instead of Friday. I could not manage to have another day of vacation. And the same for my sister and other members of Legio I Italica. A small group of us will reach Novae by car starting from Italy today. This is only a small representation of what happened. All will be explained when my "Fratres" will come back at home, next week. Vale P.S.: sorry for my bad English. I hope you understand what I've said :oops: Re: US LEGIONS TRAVEL TO BULGARIA IN JUNE - Ironhand - 06-26-2008 Thank you for the explanation Claudio. What you say adds up to my own impressions on the matters. I assumed money was involved as such gross incompetence doesn't really fit the pattern displayed. Your legion has my sympathy and I hope the damage is not too great. Hopefully some measure of justice is wrought from the situation. I cannot think of much of a worse situation for a legion and for a first year event. |