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Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-04-2008 Hello, We are enhancing our civilian side for our Tarraco Viva display. This year we'll have the lady of the villa and one of her female servants. I am looking for good pics of a few bronze and marble heads of Late Roman Empresses wearing this complicated headdress composed of several tresses. Many thanks in advance! Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 Dear Aitor: That's not a complicated headdress: that's a crown. Are you making an empress? It's made of a band (leather?) with some balls (jewelss, pearls) atached. In fact is identicall to the late roman emperor's crowns. Re: Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-04-2008 No Cesar, It is not a crown, even if it can resemble that, it's a complicated double system of tresses. 8) No we're not trying to make an empress, but rich women always aped their empress' headdress :roll: Have you already chosen place for our annual dinner or are you too too busy with the Imperial Postal Service? :wink: Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 Not a crown in a sense of the medieval crowns made of sections of metal. It's, as you says, a comlicated sistem of pearled tresses, but forming a crown. I mean, that kind of crown/headdress is associated with the emperor/ empress. And, yes we are extremly busy with the IPS... Probably we made not a dinner, but a lunch (a mediodia). But that kind of themes are managed by Carme, as you knows. Best regards. Re: Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-04-2008 A lunch! hock: You'll never cease to surprise us Please keep us informed! About the headdress, I don't understand it the way you do (maybe it is because I cannot find a back view of it :? ) but I'd wish to find pics, anyway. Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 Look at that: It's clear it's a kind of not rigid crown. Now, i have made a comparison between a late roman emperor head: and the image you posted, using the same color esqueme: The top part of the head is a tress of hair that beginns at the neck, goes at the center top part of the head and are tied in the front. Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 The blackened "balls" are bunchs of hair, probably going to the top and tied to the central tress. Re: Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-04-2008 OK Cesar, many thanks! 8) I had seen the blue diadem. I wonder whether the red dots are the heads of big aci crinales. Interesting your interpretation of the black dots. Notwithstanding, if I remember well, it was the matter of more than one tress... :? Does anybody have a back view? Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 See that kind of hair bunches going to the top in that statue of Theodora. Another time, the pearled crown. Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 And the neck tress turned over the head in that one: Re: Late Roman female headdress - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 05-04-2008 Or this one: http://72.5.117.144/fif=fpx/c/CR8886-d1 ... 0&cvt=jpeg Re: Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-04-2008 Many thanks for your help, Cesar! The last one is the most approximate to what I had in mind 8) Theodora is probably wearing the same headdress but either the sculptor was lazy or, more probably, the tresses are hidden under a veil I still hope that somebody will be able to produce a rear view from her/his archive! Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - Lvcivs Commodvs Cicero - 05-04-2008 Aitor, Here's a bit of info from Sally Pointer... http://www.sallypointer.com/makeover.htm Re: Late Roman female headdress - aitor iriarte - 05-05-2008 Many thanks, Owain Unfortunately, it is a little bit too early for what I need Aitor Re: Late Roman female headdress - Lvcivs Commodvs Cicero - 05-05-2008 No problem Aitor. I too am interested in the late roman hairstyles and how to do them. I want to bring my wife along to a uk event in 2010 all dressed up as a late roman lady.