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3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 11-11-2008

Hello.

My friends Pastor gives me an article about the materials booted from an shipwreck near Mallorca (Spain):

Cristobal Veny, “Nuevos materiales de Moro Botiâ€

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - jho - 11-11-2008

Salve Lucius,

Thank you and laus for the information on the three Roman helmets found in Spain. I just checked the article on Proquest's Periodicals Archive Online but sadly enough the relevant pages were corrupted in the online version of the article.

I have sent you a private mail with my email and would be very grateful if you could provide me with a scanned version of the article if possible.

Thank you!

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - jho - 11-17-2008

I have received the article on Friday - very interesting. Thank you and laus to Lucius.

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Tarbicus - 11-17-2008

For anyone wondering which Gallic A they're similar to:

http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,96/

Did they have the knob on top?

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - jho - 11-17-2008

No, apparently the crest holder arrangement consisted of a simple rectangular metal plate bent to include two "tunnels" for a slide-on crest holder.

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Tarbicus - 11-17-2008

Quote:No, apparently the crest holder arrangement consisted of a simple rectangular metal plate bent to include two "tunnels" for a slide-on crest holder.
Well, that in itself is important as I can't think of another example of a Gallic A with that type of crest holder. In fact, two tunnels is a first for me. Thanks :wink:

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - jho - 11-17-2008

The drawing is not particularly clear with respect to the fact that there are TWO tunnels but the Spanish text says:

"En la cuspide de la cofia (...) se halla una plaquita rectangular de 40x60 milimetros la cual se ondula en el centro para dar lugar a la formacion de una especie de DOBLE tunel (...)"

I do not spear a word of Spanish but guessed that this may be referring to a DOUBLE tunnel.

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 11-17-2008

I think there are similar to those founded in some gallic g model. A rectangular plate with a depresed central zone that divides the zone in those 2 "tunnels"...

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 11-17-2008

Something like this:

[Image: Valkenburg_IG_E_01b.JPG]

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Peroni - 11-23-2008

Also, most unusually, there is a large 'U' shaped fitment at the front of the bowls for the attachment of a crest box.

[Image: Loop.jpg]
I have never seen this fitting type before on any Roman helmet.

Also very interesting is the size of the brow guard rivets! Very similar to one of the Nijmegen roped-edge Gallic A's and the Mainz Italic D in their form
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,96/

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-23-2008

Exactly what I have been thinking of for my Gallic 'A'!!

Excellent information people! Big Grin

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Peroni - 11-24-2008

[Image: MallorcaGallicA.jpg]

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Caballo - 11-24-2008

Huge neckguard!!....thats one heck of a way of avoiding sunburn at sea- unless its an anti-seagull device......

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - Peroni - 03-05-2009

You think that's a big neck guard? Check the size of the neck guard on this Gallic A..
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,96/

Re: 3 Gallic A helmets from Spain - M. Demetrius - 03-06-2009

Maybe the neckguard here is the inspiration for the (in)famous Trooper??
(ducks and runs)