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Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - EBosman - 02-25-2009 Hello, Harry Turtledove offers his take on the events surrounding the battle of the Teutoberger Wald in “Give Me Back My Legions”, a new book due out on April 14, 2009. Per the blurb from Amazon.com: Quote:Product Description Best Emil Bosman Re: Turtledove on Teutoberger Wald - ParthianBow - 02-26-2009 Good timing, eh! I loved his sci-fi Roman books as a kid. Another one for the 'Must Buy List'. Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - EBosman - 02-27-2009 I also enjoyed the Videssos cycle series and the US Civil War based "Guns for the South". Based on the description, it seems to me that this newest venture is along the lines of historic fiction rather than a sci-fi story. Several years ago he wrote "Fort Pillow" as a historic fiction novel and I thought it quite good. As you say, another one to add to the list. Speaking of which, I'm reading your "The Forgotten Legion". I've just reached the part where three of the four main characters have met for the first time. It is a really great read and I've enjoyed it enough to have already pre-ordered the forthcoming sequel. Best Emil Bosman Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - ParthianBow - 02-27-2009 Thanks Emil! I love hearing that readers like yourself are enjoying The Forgotten Legion. It's particularly good to get your message this morning as I'm engaged in reading the copy-edited manuscript of The Silver Eagle, which is leaving me cross-eyed. I hope that The Forgotten Legion continues to satisfy as you read on...and ditto The Silver Eagle! Best wishes Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-15-2009 Is it really.....how did I miss this, and why isn't it in the stores.... :?: The name rings a bell but somehow I have missed it. :o The Forgotten Legion, tha tis. The other book sounds interesting, I will have to keep an eye out for it. Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - ParthianBow - 03-16-2009 It was probably easy enough for you to have missed it in the bookshops, as many shops, especially smaller ones, didn't seem to stock it; the reason for this I don't know (probably just because it was my first book). I think that's what happens to a lot of books too. Anyway, The Forgotten Legion happily sold really really well overall in 2008, and as a result, the paperback, which is coming out on the 16th of April in the UK, will be featured front of store in all Waterstone's as an offer of the week. WH Smith and Waterstone's are also taking a lot of copies of it as a first order, which is fantastic. The Silver Eagle will be featured front of store too in all Waterstone's for the whole of June. Sorry for the self-publicity, but I like to think that the members of romanarmy.net will be people who might like the books. As I put on another post, I've put a thank you note in my notes at the back to everyone on here, because of all the great help I get whenever I ask a question. By the way, you can still get the hardback on Amazon.co.uk! Best wishes Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-21-2009 I'l be looking for it! roll: Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - barcid - 03-22-2009 Great i have enjoyed all his books so far ,particularly the Lizards World war series :wink: Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Wander - 04-12-2009 Well, it looks like Turtledove's Teutoburger Wald story is available now: http://www.amazon.com/Give-Me-Back-My-L ... _as_txt_5/ Sounds like a promising departure from his usual alternate histories! Has anyone read this yet? Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Quintius Clavus - 04-17-2009 I just received my copy this week and so far it is an interesting read. He generally writes a good story. I'm not sure how much of it will deal with the battle itself. It starts with Varus' appointment by Augustus as governor of Germania, and Arminius with the Roman forces trying to subdue the rebellious Pannonians. He's pulled some of his character names from Cassius Dio's account and from Florus' account of the events. So far, he has assumed most of the Roman soldiers, at least of Centurion rank and below, to be wearing mail. Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - EBosman - 06-16-2009 Hello, I recently finished “Give Me Back My Legions!” and I’m sorry to report that I was quite disappointed. I found the characters to be flat and the dialog to be stiff. The scenes, situations, and portrayal of the characters’ thoughts were repetitive. The story is 306 pages long with only 25-30 pages covering the one day battle. Using the word “stiff” in an earlier sentence reminded that we read in this work that Arminius had an erection under his cloak during the battle unlike any he had experienced before. Turtledove also adds that Thusnelda gave birth to a son near the time of the battle, but who died soon after of the flux. I found such pointless asides and historical deviations to be distracting. In short, the book was dull and I couldn’t wait to be finished with it. I can’t recommend it to anyone, but should one choose to read it, I do recommend they borrow it from library. My apologies for having introduced the book to the forum. :oops: Best Emil Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - ParthianBow - 06-17-2009 Hmmm. It's got very mixed reviews on Amazon too. I've only got about 10 pages into it so far, and I can't say that I'm hooked. Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Quintius Clavus - 06-17-2009 It definitely showed signs of being written in haste - to come out in 2009. There were "typos" throughout and the ranks of various Romans were unclear/inconsistent-those being two of my complaints. You only know Caldus Caelius is a centurion definitely due to one remark by a tribune during a march through the woods. Otherwise, only because he seems to be commanding troops can one make that assumption. Turtledove squandered an opportunity to write a GOOD novel in ENGLISH about the battle. Now, the question is: with so much being published now in Germany due to the 2000 year anniversary - how do those stand up in quality? Particularly any newly published fiction? For example: Iris Kammerer's new title, Varus? An earlier title of hers, Der Tribun was recommended by Adrian Murdoch. I wish some of those would get translated into English, but I suppose interest is not that great outside of Germany (except for obsessed folks like me that is :lol: ) Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Wander - 06-17-2009 I guess we could all polish up our German. Mine exists, but it's primitive and slow. Makes me envy our European compatriots, who move so fluently from one language to another. Maybe we should all be speaking and writing in Latin... Re: Turtledove on Teutoburger Wald - Titus Juventius Tertius - 06-17-2009 Quote:Hello, I was under the impression the battle occurred over something like 3 days in various skirmishes. |