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Re: Draping the chiton - M. Demetrius - 11-02-2010
Good pix. I'd forgot about that whorl fibula.
What's the length on the Athens Museum pieces?
Re: Draping the chiton - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-02-2010
Unfortunately i really don't know. They could be rather big though. At a pure guess,around 5cm ?They are virtually unchanged from the mycenean times till today!And size certainly varied,so one can reproduce them as he needs.
Khaire
Giannis
Re: Draping the chiton - Gregory J. Liebau - 11-02-2010
Oi! I didn't realize they looked like modern safety pins. Crazy! I definitely look forward to making some of those. Thanks for the excellent photo of them.
-Gregory
Re: Draping the chiton - M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010
I'm planning to make a few myself. I'm thinking of using steel welding wire (it's plated in copper). It will look like copper except for the sharpened point, but have the springiness and resilience of steel. If it works, I'll put up a picture or two. I will try the approx 5cm/2 inch, as that seems a good size for the gauge of wire.
I've had trouble finding brass wire that's at once stiff enough to have some spring, and yet soft enough to bend effectively. I'm sure there's a supplier out there that has what I need. But I have welding wire right now.
Re: Draping the chiton - Gregory J. Liebau - 11-03-2010
Hey David,
I too am concerned about the elasticity of the wire I could get a hold of. In order to save cash trying different wires, I decided to buy pre-made safety pins. I bought a dozen of this project (with the gold plating) on Ebay. I plan to cut the excess material on the end and re-bend the wire into the more archaic style of clasp seen on the lower pin in the picture Giannis posted. I'll be sure to post some pictures once this is done!
-Gregory
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Silver-GOLD-Plate ... 4ceefb82f2
Re: Draping the chiton - John Conyard - 11-03-2010
Welding wire worked for me
Re: Draping the chiton - M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010
I wonder if my MIG wire will work. It's pretty stiff, and a nice, fine gauge. I'll try that first, then go for the torch welding wire. Results published some time next week. This week is getting ready for the Ren Faire outing Friday thru Sunday.
Re: Draping the chiton - tenerife_boy - 11-26-2011
As we are giving opinions for the clamys here I go with mine:
http://imageshack.us/g/16/grecaelkilof.jpg/
Here is the red wool I bought this afternoon for the clamys..about a fine one and I was wondering if maybe I could sew this "meandros" it´s black and gold.no blue and gold as it seems but the shop ilumination gives that result to the photo..
I wanna recreate a wealthy guy as Giannis has been talked about many post before my one here
Re: Draping the chiton - Theodosius the Great - 11-27-2011
Hi ADaL,
The weight of your wool looks light enough to recreate the many folds in the draping we see on the pottery. It seems you made a good choice. Of course, you will only know for certain after you experiment with the draping. :-)
As for the trim I think you may want to choose one that isn't metalic. Gold thread doesn't seem to have been invented yet in this period. I asked the forum about this a while ago here: http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat.html?func=view&catid=13&id=225419
But I know a website that sells hundreds of different trim styles. I will send you a PM with a link. There's a specific trim that you may like. It's a non-metalic, black and white "Greek wave".
~Theo
Re: Draping the chiton - etrusker86 - 11-27-2011
The wool looks very good to me.
About the pattern; It was normally woven into the fabric, as each piece was custom made.
As most of us couldn't afford this today I think it won't be a problem to sew the pattern onto your fabric. I have seen pictures of re-enactors who have done so.
Patrick D.
Re: Draping the chiton - tenerife_boy - 11-27-2011
Many thanks to both of you!! I will check the links you sended to me right now Theo and will see what could I do
Re: Draping the chiton - joeandmich - 11-27-2011
Quote:Hi ADaL,
But I know a website that sells hundreds of different trim styles. I will send you a PM with a link. There's a specific trim that you may like. It's a non-metalic, black and white "Greek wave".
~Theo
Hey Theo can you share that website with the rest of us? I'm planning on making a chiton as well.
Thanks,
Joe
Re: Draping the chiton - Robert Vermaat - 11-27-2011
Hi ADal,
Please DO respond to my PM to you.
Re: Draping the chiton - tenerife_boy - 11-27-2011
I found a good one thought
http://www.calontirtrim.com/queries/ShowTrim.asp?trimid=876
![[Image: greekkeymetallicredgld.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/greekkeymetallicredgld.jpg/)
Joe there´s the link
Re: Draping the chiton - Theodosius the Great - 11-28-2011
Quote:Hey Theo can you share that website with the rest of us? I'm planning on making a chiton as well.
Hi Joe,
Yes, ADaL has the link posted. I don't mean to sound so cryptic in my posts but I haven't familiarized myself yet with the new RAT rules about posting links to commercial websites.
~Theo