Help with model Roman fort - Printable Version

Help with model Roman fort - Printable Version

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Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-02-2010

Salve! I am currently in the process of making a model roman fort. In "The Complete Roman Army" it is stated that the towers over the gateways may have been two stories. Are there any posts on RAT that mention this or does anyone know any more on the subject? Most of the reconstructions I've looked at online and in books only have one story.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

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Here is the reconstruction of the gatehouse at Arbeia.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

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And a photo of the model of the fort.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-03-2010

Thanks! Was Arbeia a auxilia fort or a legionary fort?

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

Hmmm, I can't recall offhand, apart from it was converted to a supply depot, IIRC. There is a thread or 2 that discusses it though in more detail and from more knowledgeable members. You can do a search on it. Smile

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

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In the background(behind the dashing young Legionary) you can see a reconstruction of the Gate at Lunt, a wooden 1st Century fort.
This was quite possibly an Auxilliary fort, but just as likely to be a Legionary Fort during the post invasion and rebellion era, iirc.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

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And a shot from the outside.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-03-2010

Thanks! The pics are very helpful!

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-03-2010

I couldn't find anything on RAT, but according to "Hadrian's Wall in the Days of the Romans" Arbeia was a auxilia fort. They list the Ala I Pannoniorum Sabiniana as the original garrison.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-03-2010

Thats it! Well done. But I believe the auxilliaries were guarding a supply point, in its later years. The ala being a calvery troop, I think it was converted after thewy left, or possibly it was still a calvery post too.

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-03-2010

In the book they list the Cohors V Gallorum as the garrison in the 3rd century CE, after Arbeia had been converted into a supply depot. They were joined later by the numerus Barcariorum Tigrisiensium, were they are mentioned in the Notitia Dignitatum. I guess a cavalry unit wouldn't be that helpful guarding a fortified depot, or moving supplies up and down the river! Big Grin

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Simplex - 04-03-2010

Maybe this helps,
[url:2r7889z3]http://www.taunus-wetterau-limes.de/index2.htm?saalburg.htm[/url]
On the left you have a menu where you can choose.
Interesting to you would be the points: "Taunus-Kastelle" (some with one page, some with more than one page)
"Wetterau-Kastelle-N" ( N=North; same as above)
"Wetterau-Kastelle-S" (S=well, ahhh South :wink: )
Most interesting parts: "Taunus-Kastelle" Photographs of Saaburg (reconstructed castellum), the other places sport plans of reconstructions.
some of the Wetterau-Kastell-pages also do sport reconstructional drawings.
[url:2r7889z3]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wei%C3%9Fenburg_in_Bayern?uselang=de[/url] >"biriciana"
[url:2r7889z3]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastelle_von_Welzheim[/url] scroll down ca. 60% (> right side)
[url:2r7889z3]http://alt.antikefan.de/Staetten/Deutschland/limes/welzheim/kastell.html[/url]

Greez

Simplex
Edit 1:
[url:2r7889z3]http://www.limesturm.com/index.php?pageid=de/limes.html[/url] >Bildergalerie

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-03-2010

Thanks! Those sites are very helpful! I do have two questions(my understanding of german being poor :oops: ) First, in the picture of the gate at Biriciana, the section to the right of the wall has a white-colored section over top of the stonework. Is that meant to represent what would have been originally been there or does it represent that the walls were whitewashed? Also, was the fort at Saalberg a legion post, and if so, which one?

Re: Help with model Roman fort - Simplex - 04-03-2010

Hi Aurelius,
--yes the "painting of Biriciana" was meant to represent the original looks, as far as research was at that time.
--the Saalburg was not a legionary fortress, as far as I can recall it was manned by COH II Raetorum civium Romanorum equitata,
an auxilliary unit with both Infantry and Cavalry of about 500 strenght (give and take a few roman citizens from Raetia, that is).
Greez

Simplex

Re: Help with model Roman fort - AureliusFalco - 04-04-2010

Okay Thanks! So most of these reconstructed forts are auxilia forts? Would a legion fort look the same(albeit bigger)? was Biriciana a legion fort. If my memory serves me in "The Complete Roman Roman Army" it is said that round towers were used more in the Late Empire. Does that mean the Biriciana was a Late Empire Fort?