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Roman \"Canteen\" - rzienta - 03-26-2012
Salve,
I have been trying to find a good Roman 1st Cent. canteen. I've seen warning about Deepeeka's because of the lead content, I've tried a bota type model, which leaked, bota bag with plastic liner, which leaked, etc. I've been trying to find a rounded gourd type, but no luck.
Any suggestions?
Gaius Marcus Lepidus
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - agrimensor - 03-26-2012
rusty of SOUL of the warrior has several types, gourd leather and the steel version.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - rzienta - 03-26-2012
Thanks for the reply. I bought one of his bota bag types, but it leaked and I returned it. I asked him about the gourd type, but he said he didn't have any. Know of any other resources.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - agrimensor - 03-26-2012
I made mine myself, it took more then a year to dry the gourd, put a cork stopper in it and made a net to carry.Sometimes they are sold dryed then the proces is even faster.For a leatherone you can use the inner of a Spanish waterbottle and sew your own around it. I have seen bottles were there was a glass bottle inside a leather cover too. So by leather and needles and start sewing.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - jvrjenivs - 03-26-2012
http://venetiancat.com/Price-List.html or http://www.armillum.com/product.php?id_product=551
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - Crispvs - 03-26-2012
I have been using a pottery canteen from Armillum for a couple of years now and have been very pleased with it. Over that time it has picked up a bit of wear from bumping against my armour and weapons as I move around but overall it has proved surprisingly tough and practical. Needless to say, it does not leak.
So far I have suspended it from a leather strap which is tied through the rings either side of the spout and this has proved quite satisfactory. I had been worried that the rings might break but this fear appears to have been unfounded. So far I have not felt the need to cover it with anything but at some stage in the future I will probably make a heavy weight net bag to go over it to prolong its life by lessening the potential wear it sustains.
Crispvs
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - Magnus - 03-27-2012
Pottery is the way to go...
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-27-2012
I'll second Jurjen, I have a couple of Julias canteens and water bottles. They are excellent!
So, I guess I'm fourthing the use of pottery!
mile:
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - Robert Vermaat - 03-27-2012
Interesting. I seem to lack that in my collection. Isn't pottery too fragile for use in the field?
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - jvrjenivs - 03-27-2012
Quote:Interesting. I seem to lack that in my collection. Isn't pottery too fragile for use in the field?
You can try my canteen from Venitican cat next event, if you would like to try.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - DECIMvS MERCATIvS VARIANvS - 03-27-2012
Quote:I've seen warning about Deepeeka's because of the lead contentI thought that was just their pateras?? I have one of their canteens from years ago that Hibernicus sent me. I lined it w/ beeswax, but no matter what, it rusts.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - richsc - 03-27-2012
What with all these metalsmiths running around here, has anyone tried to make their own canteen?
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - jvrjenivs - 03-27-2012
Quote:What with all these metalsmiths running around here, has anyone tried to make their own canteen?
No, as it is my believe that that thing is for oil, not for water. I prefer my barrel after a find from Oberaden or a pottery one for water.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - caiusbeerquitius - 03-27-2012
Quote:No, as it is my believe that that thing is for oil, not for water. I prefer my barrel after a find from Oberaden or a pottery one for water.Yup, and funny enough, they are from civilian context, not military. The ones you see usually reconstructed are late second and third century. No evidence whatsoever that these objects were military water containers. Plus they are too small and too heavy. Doesn´t belong into a soldier´s kit, if you ask me.
Re: Roman \"Canteen\" - caiusbeerquitius - 03-27-2012
Oh, and the large relief flasks, so-called "Pilgerflaschen" (pilgrim´s flasks) as from Armillum are later second and third century as well. The earlier types of these are samian ware, as the de Casas offer. Also civilian context, and comparatively rare.