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Vexillum Dimensions - Doc - 03-28-2012

I have seen several groups carrying around a vexillum and I gather roughly the size of the shaft to be something between 6-7 ft (2-2.3meters)tall. I can get the length of the crossbar based on this dimension. However, how thick should the crossbar be? 1/2 inch (around 1cm)......less.....more

Any help is appreciated.

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - M. Demetrius - 03-28-2012

Half inch is fairly fragile, if you use dowel. The breakage I've seen occurs at the joint with the upright shaft (and 6-7 feet seems good enough) as many drill through the upright and glue in the crossbar. All stress meets at that point. I've seen shafts from 1 1/8" to 1 1/2, like closet rod, but any larger gets hard to carry easily.

There are probably other ways to attach the cross bar. If your vex is 15"-18" wide, you'll be in the "standard" ball park dimension. But remember, what we call a vex isn't quite like what we see in the record, and only one vex banner is known, as far as I know. Add enough for your leather dangly parts, and another inch outside that, and you should be fine.

None of that is historcally provable, except for the found banner. We make them how others make them, not necessarily how the Romans made theirs.

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - DECIMvS MERCATIvS VARIANvS - 03-28-2012

Quote:None of that is historcally provable, except for the found banner. We make them how others make them, not necessarily how the Romans made theirs.
THAAAANNNKKKK YOOOUUUU...

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Doc - 03-28-2012

Thanks David for the tip. However, I will not be drilling through the upright shaft, rather I will hang the crossbar like a picture frame.......there will be a cord fastened on the ends of the crossbar and the center of this cord will then be placed on a nail on the upright shaft.

I thought that this is how other have also made theirs which is why I was interested in the thickness of the crossbar.

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Magnus - 03-28-2012

0.5" will be more than fine. Here is one way of attaching it:

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Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Rado - 03-28-2012

Two years ago I decided to make the attachment of our vexillum like this : [Image: d6a5406f1870.jpg]
The practice shows that this is a very successful option!
This is the bracket that allows the free movement of the vexillum in the "Forward " command:
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Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Magnus - 03-29-2012

Good idea Rado.

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Doc - 03-29-2012

Thanks for all the replies. They are all very good suggestions.

Rado's idea is what I wanted to achieve with the cord as I described it. However, I think that Rado's solution is better.

Rado, how thick is your crossbar pole (centimeters is fine). How long is the pole without the butt spike and spear head?

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Doc - 03-29-2012

Hey Matt,

Sorry if the question is off topic but where did the vexillarius in your group get that bear skin.

Thanks

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Rado - 03-29-2012

Doc diameter of the main pole is 30 mm.Diameter the transverse stick is 12/15 мм.
The height of the Vexillum Standard should be made so ,when the flag is placed on the ground , the lower end of the Vexillum should be at on the face level on the bearer (or to the level of helmet of the Vexillarius).
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Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Rado - 03-29-2012

But this depends much on the height of Vexillarius Smile‼!
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Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Rado - 03-29-2012

When carries in the parade position the Vexillum Standard should be about 30 centimes over helmet. This is my opinion of course! Our experience shows that this is a good option!
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Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Magnus - 03-30-2012

Hey Paolo, I'm not sure...he's a guy from a Legion in Chicago. I can find out for you though.

Re: Vexillum Dimensions - Doc - 03-30-2012

Thanks Rado for the information.

Matt, please do find out.