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First century closed shoes - Caballo - 04-21-2013 This pic from Pompeii shows closed shoes- Any other ideas or pics as to what they might look like? Calcei?? Cheers Paul First century closed shoes - Robert - 04-21-2013 These would be what Carol van Driel-Murray classes as "Sewn Boots: style Mainze". These were common all over the empire and her dating ranges from first century B.C. to the 70's A.D. Examples are present from Velsen, Valkenburg, Xanten and Mainz. For soldiers, the Fell and Allendale boot would be appropriate (but only have been found in the Northern provinces), these date from late first century to about 120 AD. The Fell is a closed boot, the Allendale has an openwork pattern. In both cases the upper is sown from a single piece. Source: Stepping through Time. Olaf Goubitz, SPA uitgeverij 978-90-8932-002-5 First century closed shoes - Caballo - 04-22-2013 Thanks Robert! First century closed shoes - Paul Elliott - 04-23-2013 Alex Croom says in 'Roman Clothing & Fashion' that 'the men at the bakers shop ...wear dark brown ankle boots. In the early empire they were worn particularly by poor people or country folk. Juvenal refers to 'the man who is not ashamed to wear high boots in time of frost' (Sat. 14.185) First century closed shoes - Martin Moser - 04-24-2013 Robert summarized it all quite nicely out of Stepping Through Time. I'm positive there were many types and variants we'll never know of, so this is a best guess approach of course. For a reconstruction of the Mainz type see http://sutor.jimdo.com/shoes/roman-shoes/mainz-calceus/. As for Quote:Alex Croom says in 'Roman Clothing & Fashion' that 'the men at the bakers shop ...wear dark brown ankle boots. In the early empire they were worn particularly by poor people or country folk. I doubt that this holds true for the type of closed shoes we are talking about here. These shoes are quite sophisticated in terms production techniques and overal time involved. I expect poorer folks to have gone with cruder carbatinae styles out of sheer financial necessity. These are easier and quicker to produce and can be made on your own, too. Also, we see the people in the procession on the Ara Pacis wear closed ankle boots of at least 3 types. Neither poor nor rural folks ;-) Cheers, Martin First century closed shoes - Paul Elliott - 04-24-2013 Quote:These shoes are quite sophisticated in terms production techniques and overal time involved. I expect poorer folks to have gone with cruder carbatinae styles out of sheer financial necessity. Having made a couple of pairs myself ... I agree, they would seem to be expensive things to make and purchase. First century closed shoes - Caballo - 06-09-2013 Although as the fresco depicts a free handout of bread from a white clothed election candidate (as I've now found out after the Pompeii exhibition at the BM) , the artist depicting his concept of the "poor bloke from the country" depiction may not be entirely wrong either! First century closed shoes - Martin Moser - 06-10-2013 I have a decent income I think and at the same time have to admit that I'm not above accepting a free hot dog or pint of beer when someone pushes it on to me ... :whistle: First century closed shoes - Gaius Julius Caesar - 06-11-2013 Is it a free handout? Or is it a market scene? I remember the free bread handouts talked about in the sources, but was that not just in Rome? First century closed shoes - Caballo - 06-11-2013 Politicians will always do giveaway wherever they want to be elected....and whenever!! First century closed shoes - M. Demetrius - 06-11-2013 You mean like "bread and circuses"?? Worked then, works now. |