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Albaniana bronze handled knife - Robert - 12-26-2013
Salvete Omnes,
I have modeled and had cast some replica's of a bronze knife handle found at the fortres of Albaniana. Unfortunatly, there was not enough of the blade left to make an acurate reconstruction, so I am left with three possibilities, all based on knife shapes found at the same site.
Could you please indicate your preference for one of these three shapes, as I would like to market these at some point and would value your input?
Albaniana bronze handled knife - dave74 - 12-26-2013
Well,Robert,I like the top blade myself,very graceful curves but,why not offer all three as an option? Beautiful casting work btw.
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Robert - 12-26-2013
Thanks, Dave. Yes, valid suggestion, but then I would have to make them custom when they are sold and I want to do these smaller blades in between this winter. Hafting these in bronze is carefull work, so I want "fiddle time", hahaha
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Ariovistus - 12-26-2013
I too prefer the top blade, it seems to be the most functional looking one out of the three. Both A and C are fairly similar though and, if given a choice, those would be the ones that I would purchase. Love the handles!
Albaniana bronze handled knife - tiberius aemilius naso - 12-26-2013
I'd go for the A!
Albaniana bronze handled knife - dave74 - 12-26-2013
Quote:Thanks, Dave. Yes, valid suggestion, but then I would have to make them custom when they are sold and I want to do these smaller blades in between this winter. Hafting these in bronze is carefull work, so I want "fiddle time", hahahaTrue,in that case, *A* has my vote,just has more visual appeal to me.
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Virilis - 12-26-2013
"A" for me too, "B" looks like a seax too much...
Albaniana bronze handled knife - john m roberts - 12-26-2013
Robert,
I can see that it's an animal shape, but what kind? A lion? The head looks sort of like a mastiff.
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Robert - 12-26-2013
Hahahaha, yes, supposed to be a lion, as it has manes. Here is the original .... :
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Flavivs Aetivs - 12-26-2013
Quote:"A" for me too, "B" looks like a seax too much...
Same here.
I agree that the original looks like a cross between a pug and a wiener dog, rather than a Lion
Albaniana bronze handled knife - dave74 - 12-27-2013
I'd say the original looks like a lion,just one that had been *petted* over the years to a house cat. Whatever the blade shape of the original,from the wear on the handle,I'd say it recieved alot of use.
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Vindex - 12-27-2013
A looks like the after "photograph" of C (years of use and sharpening).
May I ask what your three styles are based upon? Anything from the archaeological record, or just experience on your part.
(Something I'd add to my wish list too!)
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Robert - 12-27-2013
All three blades shapes are based on actual finds from the fort. In the Manning typology, I suppose A and C would be lumped together, but A has a distinct downward onset of the blade and the point is in line with the central portion of the hilt, which is unlike the type C, where the point is always well below the central line. I believe A was originaly intended to look that way and is not a product of an oversharpened C style blade. C is the dominant shape in utility knives. B is also common, straight blade with a downward sloping point. The original could very well have had just such a blade, as these are often seen with bronze handles, but ... well .... it just didn't look as well as the other two options. So I am glad there seems to be a preference for A, as that would make it a non-typical knife in it's own right, not an exact replica of any one find.
PS and in case someone is wondering, yes, A is the more difficult one to shape (read as "rare and more expensive").
Albaniana bronze handled knife - dave74 - 12-27-2013
That's the thing,Robert,glad you mentioned it,forging the more complex curves on a knife sized single edge blade would be,for me,no less work than say a double edged gladius blade,less *heavy* hammering but,much more gentle *tapping* .
Will be worth it I'd say,should be a very unique item both in terms of visual appeal and,the fact that you don't see these made often
Albaniana bronze handled knife - Robert - 12-27-2013
Oh, I really like these smaller knives with complex shapes. But then I do have a good deal of practice making them and have a closely guarded secret methode to craft these ......
I use two different size wooden mallets I made from walnut, reinforced with rawhide strips.