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Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Neuraleanus - 02-20-2014
I believe I have seen reenactors do it better.
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Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - antiochus - 02-20-2014
Neuraleanus wrote:
I believe I have seen reenactors do it better.
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Did the reenactors have to form the testudo with a sign post in the middle of the testudo because the situation demanded it? Were the reenactors under attack from fire bombs and other missiles? Life and death situations as opposed to play acting are entirely different matters. Look at what happened to the Thai police formation when someone threw a hand grenade at it. How would the reenactors perform with a live grenade thrown at them or hundreds of protesters firing all sorts of missiles at them.
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Gunthamund Hasding - 02-20-2014
well here is another one a little bit from farther away
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - antiochus - 02-20-2014
A testudo formation is no defence against Molotov cocktails, no matter how perfect the testudo formation is formed. The liquid will flow and find its way onto human flesh.
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Robert Vermaat - 02-20-2014
Quote:A testudo formation is no defence against Molotov cocktails, no matter how perfect the testudo formation is formed. The liquid will flow and find its way onto human flesh.Which makes one wonder how effective Roman testudos were in siege situations (for which they were alledgedly developed - Trajan's Column)? Of course no bottles with gasoline were available then, but plenty of flammable stuff!
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Thomas Aagaard - 02-20-2014
And the clear problem is how defensive this formation is.
The danish police have stopped using shields. and is way more mobile as a result.
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The rest Got nothing to to with the roman army, but the conflict in Ukraine.
The Ukainian police just shoot the protesters instead...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8 (don't watch if you can't stand seeing people get shot.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6IbEIBhb8o
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Gunthamund Hasding - 02-20-2014
BTW also very nice helmets as well
with rearguard
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Flavivs Aetivs - 02-20-2014
That's gonna hurt in the morning.
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Flavivs Aetivs - 02-21-2014
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Quote:Which makes one wonder how effective Roman testudos were in siege situations (for which they were alledgedly developed - Trajan's Column)? Of course no bottles with gasoline were available then, but plenty of flammable stuff!
Greek Fire (7th Century AD I should mention, but still relevant as it was used in hand grenades)
Sextus Julius Africanus describes Automatic Fire being used for siege purposes (or was it siege machines) doesn't he?
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - antiochus - 02-21-2014
Robert wrote:
Which makes one wonder how effective Roman testudos were in siege situations (for which they were alledgedly developed - Trajan's Column)? Of course no bottles with gasoline were available then, but plenty of flammable stuff!
I seem to remember reading that the defenders could heat sand and pour it down on to the attackers.
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Sean Manning - 02-21-2014
Quote:Was flammable liquid available? I thought that without rock oil it was quite hard to produce an incendiary which you could light with a touch of a flame. I don't think that vegetable oil or fat or resin instantly burst into flames like in the movies.antiochus post=351267 Wrote:A testudo formation is no defence against Molotov cocktails, no matter how perfect the testudo formation is formed. The liquid will flow and find its way onto human flesh.Which makes one wonder how effective Roman testudos were in siege situations (for which they were alledgedly developed - Trajan's Column)? Of course no bottles with gasoline were available then, but plenty of flammable stuff!
Ukrainian Police do a Testuto - Robert Vermaat - 02-21-2014
Quote:I did not refer to flammable liquids! But hot liquids, oil or water or anything alike, could of course be thrown from the wall and badly wound anyone in a testudo.Robert Vermaat post=351294 Wrote:Which makes one wonder how effective Roman testudos were in siege situations (for which they were alledgedly developed - Trajan's Column)? Of course no bottles with gasoline were available then, but plenty of flammable stuff!Was flammable liquid available? I thought that without rock oil it was quite hard to produce an incendiary which you could light with a touch of a flame. I don't think that vegetable oil or fat or resin instantly burst into flames like in the movies.