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quiver for javelins - arminius - 03-06-2016

It looks that I finally came across a pictorial source for the javelin-quiver mentioned by F. J.
The drawing is from the book “Armes et guerriers barbares au temps des grandes invasions (IVe au VIe siècle apr. J.-C.), Paris 2001” by Iaroslav Lebedynsky.
Unfortunately I have no clue what the provided information “Theodusius-Stele / Ukraine, Crimea / 1st – 3rd c.” is supposed to mean.
Does anybody know what monument the author is referring to?

[img][Image: swz-StaWa-i-koumlcher_zpsfddiopis.jpg][/img]


RE: quiver for javelins - Flavivs Aetivs - 03-06-2016

I know about this, I've seen a reconstruction of this quiver somewhere.

This is the Theodosia (a city, Kaffa I believe) Stele from the Crimea (i.e. the Bosporan Kingdom or possible Sarmatian).


RE: quiver for javelins - Longovicium - 03-06-2016

Page 212 of 'The World of the Huns' - Maenchen-Helfen contains a picture of the stele from Theodosia in the Crimea, first to third centuries. It represents the deceased Atta, son of Tryphon.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CrUdgzSICxcC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=horseman+Stele+from+Theodosia+crimea&source=bl&ots=KIYXIZz8MY&sig=pxhtNT1dbyw5P368JANXFg5TvR0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizyP6cvqvLAhXObZoKHftgAQsQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=horseman%20Stele%20from%20Theodosia%20crimea&f=false


RE: quiver for javelins - arminius - 03-07-2016

(03-06-2016, 07:02 AM)Longovicium Wrote: Page 212 of 'The World of the Huns' - Maenchen-Helfen contains a picture of the stele from Theodosia in the Crimea, first to third centuries. It represents the deceased Atta, son of Tryphon.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CrUdgzSICxcC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=horseman+Stele+from+Theodosia+crimea&source=bl&ots=KIYXIZz8MY&sig=pxhtNT1dbyw5P368JANXFg5TvR0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizyP6cvqvLAhXObZoKHftgAQsQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=horseman%20Stele%20from%20Theodosia%20crimea&f=false

ah - "Theodosia" .. not "Theodosius" !
Thanks a lot for the help guys!


RE: quiver for javelins - Alanus - 03-07-2016

Theodosia or Feodosia, as it's now spelled, a port in the southeastern Crimea, the hometown of my third wife. Quite possibly the Bosphorus Kingdom was controlled by the Aorsi, specifically, at this time... rather than the all-inclusive and generalized term "Sarmatian." Don't even ask me about the "Scythians." Dodgy

We see an akinakes strapped to his outer right thigh, and he appears to be holding something-- perhaps a quick shot of hauma. The horse has one crennelation on its mane, maybe others missing from being defaced. Crennelated manes are an Alanic/Aorsi trait and extend back to the Yuezhi who trimmed their horses' manes in the same style.


RE: quiver for javelins - Escobar - 03-05-2017

http://www.omda.bg/public/images_more/letnitsa_phalera_silver_gilt.jpg
It isn't similar javelin case?


RE: quiver for javelins - Alanus - 03-05-2017

This phelara looks Germanic. I don't see a javelin case, but maybe the backside of a shield.


RE: quiver for javelins - Flavivs Aetivs - 03-06-2017

What time period is that from?

I don't think it's a javelin case, it seems just to be decorative lines, nothing more.


RE: quiver for javelins - Alanus - 03-06-2017

Evan,

The rider looks like a Vendel. Don't believe there is anything on this plaque that looks like a javelin case. Wink


RE: quiver for javelins - Escobar - 03-06-2017

No, this is Thracian. But i know, that western propaganda always assign achievements of other peoples to western.
http://www.omda.bg/public/engl/history/letnitza_treasure.htm