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Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - tlclark - 12-28-2005
Quote:"This message may be monitored by George W. Bush for the purposes of national security and quality control"ROFLMAIO (rolling on the floor laughing my Italian ass off)
Thanks, y'know the burn is that I've been using this tagline for a week or so now, and just the other night Dave Lettermen uses the same joke!
Dave must be lurking the RAT boards! (It's the only logical explanation):wink:
Quote:"arrentine"
I thought I could be wrong, soI checked the spelling on it in my books, and it's Arretine, no "n"-after pieces found in Arezzo, northern Italy.
Oops! My bad. I never could spel.
Quote:Alternately, I would make a REALLY REALLY good copy that was 10% larger, and take a cast of IT, and then use the mold with my regular clay, which is very smooth and finely grained.
I'll keep my eyes out for one.
Quote:With LEATHER though, my guess is that WOOD molds were used, much as they are today in the making of a good saddle.
VERY interesting. Thanks for the tip.
Quote:Please, DO send me a picture-I can copy just about anything in clay, and if you're really interested, I'd give it a try.
The Byzantine stuff is very similar to the stuff you have except it has blue-green and brown glazed with an incised design (usually birds, though not certain why birds were so popular)
Here's a crappy black and white bird incised bowl I just googled.
http://www.astromeditions.com/images/91-7081-160-1B.jpg
And here are some of my crappy pics of pilgrimage flasks from the Byzantine Museum in Athens.
![[Image: pilgrimage_flask1.jpg]](http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/pictures/pilgrimage_flask1.jpg)
(And some links to avoid the 3 images rule)
http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/pictur ... flask2.jpg
http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/pictur ... flask3.jpg
These range in size from about 2-5 inches in diameter. Most are made from lead, but a large amount are in ceramic, like these. They are decorated with images of the saint from which shrine they came, or with generic images of the crucifixion or the orant virgin, crosses or holy mongrams of the virgin, etc, or sometimes protective prayers. They all have the two 'handles' up top that are really too small to be handles, but instead were used to tie a rope or thong to so that they would hang over the neck. They held oil that had been poured over the relics of the saint and imparted some of the holy odor or myron of the relic to the oil, which in description, alternately smells like honey, flowers or incense. They were worn for protection by all classes. The beaded border is also common. Most are molded and mass produced, but a few are custom made and some are even painted.
These other two are some examples of byz. pottery. Great linear designs in incised and painted on glazes.
http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/pictur ... ottery.jpg
http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/pictur ... ttery2.jpg
Love the spiral patterns.
Anyway, hope this is inspiration.
Thanks again!!
Update: Darn! I can't get the last two links to come up, but I can see them in my ftp utility so I don't know why they aren't working. I will see if I can fix them later.
Travis
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - FAVENTIANVS - 12-28-2005
Ladies & gentlemen, stay in topic please... :wink:
Thanx.
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Iulia Cassia Vegetia - 12-29-2005
I am going to answer this post on "Marketplace" in my Venetian Cat section so that we can stay on topic here.
Please go to:
[url:w43h3sxp]http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?p=51607#51607[/url]
My apologies to the other members for getting sidetracked :wink: .
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - tlclark - 12-29-2005
Quote:I am going to answer this post on "Marketplace" in my Venetian Cat section so that we can stay on topic here.
Please go to:
[url:30e3wecc]http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?p=51607#51607[/url]
My apologies to the other members for getting sidetracked :wink: .
ditto all! Sorry about that. Maybe a moderator could move the earlier two posts of mine to the topic listed above?
Thanks
Travis
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - FAVENTIANVS - 12-29-2005
Ok, your wish is my command! I Think I know how to do it but never did it yet... Let's see... :wink:
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - tlclark - 12-30-2005
Quote:Also, I have attempted to achieve the tunic pleat with mixed results.
Very well done, John...
I wonder if the pleats in the original depictions were in fact a result of the way the cloth was woven. I have some East Indian cotton that has pleats naturally woven into the fabric for example. I have seen some types of linen fabric in Italy with those same "pleats".
![[Image: Picture124.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/JohnMcDermott/Picture124.jpg)
John,
I think this is a matter of expectations. When I compare your pleats to Italian relief statuary, like the arch of Septimus Severus or the Pozzouli arch yours look dead on. When I compare it to the Mainz stelae, it's a little off, but I think that's because those have a very linear style that's very gestural and not meant to represent reality.
I'm still not sure how this effect was produced but I think you've got the look down cold.
Travis
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Chuck Russell - 01-11-2006
![[Image: ROMANME.jpg]](http://www.geocities.com/midnightwolf.geo/ROMANME.jpg)
http://www.geocities.com/midnightwolf.geo/ROMANME.jpg
bad picture, sorry
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Commilito - 01-16-2006
...
hock: I feel almost embarrased to post my picture here.
It's not much...but given a 16-year old's wage, its a lot for me. Anyways I'm workin on my mid 3rd century soldier's costume. Legio II Parthica of course. Next step...linen leg wraps!!
![[Image: IMG_0653edited.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/BiggsDarklighter/IMG_0653edited.jpg)
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Robert Vermaat - 01-16-2006
Quote:...Why be embarassed? You've never seen my first outfit (and you never will, muwahahaha :twisted: ). I think it looks very good for a 16-year old.
I feel almost embarrased to post my picture here.
It's not much...but given a 16-year old's wage, its a lot for me. Anyways I'm workin on my mid 3rd century soldier's costume. Legio II Parthica of course. Next step...linen leg wraps!!
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Caballo - 01-16-2006
And more authentic (in age) than some of us oldies!
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Tarbicus - 01-16-2006
Quote:And more authentic (in age) than some of us oldies!Well, if we oldies ground our teeth down to the gums then we could be more authentic :wink:
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - aitor iriarte - 01-16-2006
That's why I play the tribune (the 'Old Man') of the Cohors. Bald (Thanks gods for the pilleus! :roll: ) an with whitish beard, I cannot play a believable tiro... :twisted:
Aitor
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - Commilito - 01-17-2006
haha, maybe you guys should be...Triarii !
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 01-17-2006
Or evocati in cohors veteranorum! :lol:
Re: Show here your roman soldier impression - FAVENTIANVS - 01-25-2006
Quote:Individual posts can be split off a thread to form a new one and can then be moved as a thread. They cannot however be merged with other posts to form a new thread.Iulia Cassia Vegetia:1s8t04ty Wrote:I am going to answer this post on "Marketplace" in my Venetian Cat section so that we can stay on topic here.
Please go to:
[url:1s8t04ty]http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?p=51607#51607[/url]
My apologies to the other members for getting sidetracked :wink: .
ditto all! Sorry about that. Maybe a moderator could move the earlier two posts of mine to the topic listed above?
Thanks
Travis
Commilito, Impressive look! The 3rd Century is one of the best to re-enact... Keep on this way!!! You have an extra karma :wink: