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New Papyri Found - Anonymous - 08-04-2002
Some papyri has been found during the excavation of a 2nd AD Roman fort in Egypt. According to my academic source, the Roman commander wrote a nuts and bolt account of the methods and tactics used to defeat a large body of mounted raiders. The papyri is still in the translation stage.<br>
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Regards<br>
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Deputydog <p></p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Praefectusclassis - 08-04-2002
That sounds extremely interesting. Care to share a bit more? Fort? Unit? Who's doing the translation?<br>
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Oh, and welcome to the board! <p>Greets<BR>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
New Papyri Found - Anonymous - 08-04-2002
That sounds extremely interesting. Care to share a bit more? Fort? Unit? Who's doing the translation?<br>
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Unfortunately I cannot add anymore detail to what I have already written. I am waiting on a translation but have no idea when that will be. My source comes from an academic who has promised me the translation. It seems a great many academics are very excited about this find.<br>
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I have not come across the "Journal of Ancient Military Studies." Can you tell me more?<br>
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And thanks for the welcome.<br>
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Regards<br>
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Deputy dog<br>
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Re: New Papyri Found - Praefectusclassis - 08-04-2002
It's not surprising you have not yet come across this journal. At the moment we are gathering (very succesfully till now) academic support. We'll be releasing a prospectus pretty soon and hope to get the first issue of the press in 2004. We'll keep you posted, don't worry! <p>Greets<BR>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
New Papyri Found - Anonymous - 08-04-2002
Is this the same journal Lazenby and some other well established academics were trying to get Routledge publishing interested in the project some years ago? If so I thought the name was changed to "The Journal of Ancient and Medieval Warfare." I personally prefer the original title "Journal of Ancient Warfare Studies" (JAWS).<br>
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Cheers<br>
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deputydog (not sure if I feel comfortable using a pseudonym). <p></p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Praefectusclassis - 08-04-2002
You're welcome to use your own name!<br>
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Nope, it's not the same, however, we did pick up on their idea. They couldn't find a commercial publishing house for the journal, we plan to fund it privately. That does mean we need subscriptions as soon as the first issue appears! <p>Greets<BR>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - richsc - 08-04-2002
Not just academics! What great news. I guess you can't rush these things.<br>
I wonder how the Villa of the Papyri is doing in Herculaneum? <p>Richard Campbell, Legio XX.
http://www.geocities.com/richsc53/studies/ </p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Anonymous - 08-05-2002
Jasper wrote: Nope, it's not the same, however, we did pick up on their idea. They couldn't find a commercial publishing house for the journal, we plan to fund it privately. That does mean we need subscriptions as soon as the first issue appears!<br>
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Will it be only for lay people or more for academics? By academics I mean articles with Greek or Latin text inserts. Well if it's good I'll subscribe. I have a bundle of unpublished papers written by academics on ancient warfare. I'm fascinated by the number of unpublished papers academics have sitting in their desks.<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Steven James <p></p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Muzzaguchi - 08-05-2002
Very Exciting Indeed,<br>
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They could prove/disprove or blow out of the water ideas held regarding the Extaxis of Arrian and its wide ranging applicability. Please keep us posted!<br>
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I too would be very interested in subscribing to Journal of<br>
Ancient Military Studies, if not actually submitting artilces to be refereed - I assume it is to be peer refereed?<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Muzzaguchi<br>
<p>It is an unscrupulous intellect that does not pay Antiquity its due reverence - Erasmus of Rotterdam</p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Praefectusclassis - 08-05-2002
Yup, it will be peer refereed. As long as it's good, you stand a good chance! And yes, it will be academically oriented, but modern academics do translate their quotes - or we will ask them to. <p>Greets<BR>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Guest - 08-05-2002
Salve,<br>
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Anything related to Arrianus, whether Alexander or his Roman writings, interests me. What are your thoughts on the wider appliciability of the matters described in the <i> Ektaxis</i>? Are the similarities with the book on infantry warfare in the <i> Strategikon</i> to be seen as a sign that it was not an extraordinary deployment or not?<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Sander van Dorst <p></p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - Anonymous - 08-05-2002
Are there any websites that elaborate on these papyri? <p></p><i></i>
Re: New Papyri Found - SigniferOne - 05-28-2008
Let me revive this thread, after six years -- have there been any news news of this new papyrus manual, on Roman infantry tactics vs. mounted cavalry? Surely, such a manual would be of utmost interest to every student of Ancient history. The original poster promised to post details of the papyrus shortly, i.e. at some point in 2002. At this point all that we know is that it is a papyrus and that it was discovered in Egypt, hardly enough to then go on and find the document by ourselves.
Re: New Papyri Found - antiochus - 05-28-2008
To all RAT members,
Someone is using an old post of mine published on some internet (now forgotten) sight some years ago when I used the name Deputy Dog.
I have nothing to do with this posting.
The source about the papyri was told to me by Adrian Goldsworthy many years ago. I have no idea who this anyonomous poster is but there are not geniune.
Re: New Papyri Found - SigniferOne - 05-29-2008
Wait, so do the papyri exist, or no?
Is there an article on the matter?