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Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Seth Rainey - 08-10-2017

Hello, I'm getting involved in Hoplite, and have been searching for a Corinthian helmet that suits me.   But what I want to know is about painting the helmet itself. I saw some stuff about the cheek plates being painted and wanted to know if this was appropriate. I can find information on the crest boxes being painted, and hints at the helmets being painted but I want some opinions before I do anything. I had just planed to [/font][/size][font=Times New Roman]paint blue and white checks on mine, nothing as fancy as the photo I put up for reference. I also bought a commercially available linothorax that I plan to repaint as well has anyone else ever done that?


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Creon01 - 08-10-2017

Regarding painted linos/spola body armor:

[Image: 33210409430_73b307c621_z.jpg]

Some think he's wearing a common leather cap, a kynee, while others think it's the bottom of a helmet, either way it's blue.

[Image: 33477494481_f3c45367e9.jpg]


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Seth Rainey - 08-11-2017

(08-10-2017, 07:56 PM)Thank you very much! I really want to highlight my Linthorax to match my crest and paint my helmet as well. Creon01 Wrote: Regarding painted linos/spola body armor:

[Image: 33210409430_73b307c621_z.jpg]

Some think he's wearing a common leather cap, a kynee, while others think it's the bottom of a helmet, either way it's blue.

[Image: 33477494481_f3c45367e9.jpg]



RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Feinman - 08-14-2017

I very much suspect that some of the patterned geometric bands seen in the depictions are actually tablet-woven bands; they are often seen near the top of the tube section of the armour.
Some of the other decorations could be embroidered or painted.  Much earlier Egyptian linen armour had tablet-woven bands, as did some of Tut's garments.


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Dan Howard - 08-14-2017

Agreed. Just because the stone representation was painted doesn't mean that the actual item was painted.

FWIW I'm in the camp who thinks that it is a Corinthian tipped back on the head.


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Creon01 - 08-15-2017

Like this? It would certainly look more heroic.

[Image: 33437104762_f7076f40fc_o.jpg]

From the Tomb of Lyson and Kallikles in ancient Mieza (modern-day Lefkadia), Hellenistic helmets.

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RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Feinman - 08-15-2017

(08-14-2017, 11:47 PM)Dan Howard Wrote: Agreed. Just because the stone representation was painted doesn't mean that the actual item was painted.

The good news is that the bands are easy to commission or find:

https://www.etsy.com/search?q=tablet%20woven%20band&ref=auto3


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Seth Rainey - 08-16-2017

I have decieded to attempt to make my own. the 300+ bucks for the Depeeka one is just not relistic at the moment so with my wifes help I hope to sew one up. Thank you for all your wonderful help!


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-02-2017

Red pigment has been found on the top of a corinthian helmet. Wish I had the reference...


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Dan Howard - 10-02-2017

You'll have to stop using photobucket if you haven't paid for an account. Best not to use any of the free imaging hosting services. RAT has its own server that works well enough. Upload relevant images here.


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-03-2017

I didn't upload a photo Dan, that was my group's logo with my personal info that was visible in the olden times. I need to go to the setings and remove it...


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Creon01 - 10-03-2017

(10-02-2017, 09:17 PM)Giannis K. Hoplite Wrote: Red pigment has been found on the top of a corinthian helmet. Wish I had the reference...

Now that IS interesting. Can you tell us more? What type of Corinthian? Was it located at a shrine or on a potential battlefield?


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-03-2017

I think it was from a grave, and not from mainland Greece. But I cannot remember the reference...Sorry!


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Feinman - 10-05-2017

There is this sculpture with red paint on the helmet:
https://books.google.com/books?id=gfQwAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=traces+of+red+pigment+corinthian+helmet&source=bl&ots=YvnlGRmHqk&sig=UGP1MQuqOozEXdnD_Y0WAm1z_D0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjyqovypNrWAhXlhlQKHZOOB6sQ6AEISTAL#v=onepage&q=traces%20of%20red%20pigment%20corinthian%20helmet&f=false


RE: Painted Helmets and repainted Linthorax - Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-21-2017

This paper focuses mainly on patinas and coatings but it touches a little on paint as well.
http://orca.cf.ac.uk/33749/1/2012mantipphd.pdf