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greek round shields? - DR_Reham - 02-08-2018

I ASK ABOUT ROUND SHIELDS IN BRONZE AGE , WAS IT REAALY FOUND BEFORE LH III ? I WAS READ THAT IN 
http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/shields2.htm

 BUT I can,t find any details about copper shield from Priam treasure ,,  and also i want to find books talk in details about this rounded shields , and last how can i found the biblography which the site http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/shields2.htm Depends on. 

thanks in advance

reham


RE: greek round shields? - Feinman - 02-08-2018

(02-08-2018, 02:28 PM)DR_Reham Wrote: I ASK ABOUT ROUND SHIELDS IN BRONZE AGE , WAS IT REAALY FOUND BEFORE LH III ? I WAS READ THAT IN 
http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/shields2.htm

 BUT I can,t find any details about copper shield from Priam treasure ,,  and also i want to find books talk in details about this rounded shields , and last how can i found the biblography which the site http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/shields2.htm Depends on. 

thanks in advance

reham

Hello Reham,
I think the "shield" was actually a large tray.  Schliemann desperately wanted to find Homeric evidence.


RE: greek round shields? - Dan Howard - 02-08-2018

There were definitely round shields in the Bronze Age; some of them "full-height". But, as Todd said, the Schliemann one isn't a shield, it was a tray or basin of some kind. A similar tray was found with the Dendra Panoply. My book has a chapter on Bronze Age shields and an appendix specifically discussing the shields in the Iliad. IMO Homeric shields were circular, including the large one carried by Hektor.

https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Bronze-Age-Military-Equipment/p/3272


RE: greek round shields? - DR_Reham - 02-09-2018

(02-08-2018, 03:53 PM)Feinman Wrote: Hello Reham,
I think the "shield" was actually a large tray.  Schliemann desperately wanted to find Homeric evidence.

thanks for reply . but what about a round shape in Phaistos disk, and round shape from Khania Crete dated around LM IB 
http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/roundshield47.jpg 
and also the wooden object from Mycenae? 

(02-08-2018, 09:22 PM)Dan Howard Wrote: There were definitely round shields in the Bronze Age; some of them "full-height". But, as Todd said, the Schliemann one isn't a shield, it was a tray or basin of some kind. A similar tray was found with the Dendra Panoply. My book has a chapter on Bronze Age shields and an appendix specifically discussing the shields in the Iliad. IMO Homeric shields were circular, including the large one carried by Hektor.
https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Bronze-Age-Military-Equipment/p/3272

thanks for reply . i am read your book already  it is good job and i gained a lot of knowledge but , i ask about  a period before late bronze age ?
i found a picture of round shape found with dendra panoply,  you put it in another site Smile . but i think it is not same  the shape of schilemann discovery in Priam's treasure, what do you think ? 

https://myarmoury.com/talk/files/dendra_insitu_139.jpg


RE: greek round shields? - Dan Howard - 02-09-2018

It is a basin of some kind. There are no surviving shields from the period you are interested in. All we have are the bronze bosses. The rest is speculation based on some ambiguous illustrations.