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What type of Montefortino Helmet is suitable for Late Republic/Gallic Wars period? - Corvus - 11-07-2021
After reading the Res Bellica article about the Montefortino types, I got a little bit confussed.
All Montefortino types, besides one mentioned are from middle Republicanlucan period.
So does that mean that type C wasnt in use in late republic?
Is there a detailed and good overview of all the Montefortino type helmets?
What types are ok for late republic?
https://www.res-bellica.com/en/montefortino-type-helmets-a-chronology/
RE: What type of Montefortino Helmet is suitable for Late Republic/Gallic Wars period? - Nathan Ross - 11-08-2021
(11-07-2021, 02:53 PM)Corvus Wrote: What types are ok for late republic?
Dates for Roman helmet types are largely guesswork. Some individual examples can be tied to a particular deposition date, but we have little way of knowing how long the use of each type may have extended. The Montefortino seems to have continued in use for a very long time.
For the late republic, the Buggenum type of late Montefortino was almost certainly in use (this one comes from Carnuntum, so must be Augustan at least). It was probably used alongside the Mannheim type of early Coolus, and perhaps some early Gallic Port or Agen style helmets.
RE: What type of Montefortino Helmet is suitable for Late Republic/Gallic Wars period? - Corvus - 11-08-2021
(11-08-2021, 01:52 PM)Nathan Ross Wrote:(11-07-2021, 02:53 PM)Corvus Wrote: What types are ok for late republic?
Dates for Roman helmet types are largely guesswork. Some individual examples can be tied to a particular deposition date, but we have little way of knowing how long the use of each type may have extended. The Montefortino seems to have continued in use for a very long time.
For the late republic, the Buggenum type of late Montefortino was almost certainly in use (this one comes from Carnuntum, so must be Augustan at least). It was probably used alongside the Mannheim type of early Coolus, and perhaps some early Gallic Port or Agen style helmets.
Thanks Nathan.
Do you know any good online resource about the typology of the Montefortino helmets?
RE: What type of Montefortino Helmet is suitable for Late Republic/Gallic Wars period? - Nathan Ross - 11-09-2021
(11-08-2021, 09:47 PM)Corvus Wrote: Do you know any good online resource about the typology of the Montefortino helmets?
I'm far from an expert, and there might be more recent studies available, but JM Paddock's 1993 thesis The Bronze Italian Helmet is pretty exhaustive and free to download; Vol 2 has a full listing and description of all the known (at that time) Montefortino and Coolus examples.
RE: What type of Montefortino Helmet is suitable for Late Republic/Gallic Wars period? - Corvus - 11-13-2021
(11-09-2021, 01:14 AM)Nathan Ross Wrote:(11-08-2021, 09:47 PM)Corvus Wrote: Do you know any good online resource about the typology of the Montefortino helmets?
I'm far from an expert, and there might be more recent studies available, but JM Paddock's 1993 thesis The Bronze Italian Helmet is pretty exhaustive and free to download; Vol 2 has a full listing and description of all the known (at that time) Montefortino and Coolus examples.
Many thanks!