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Re: Greek footwear - Chris B - 12-17-2007

If anyone is interested. I commissioned a hand stitched pair using Kurt's shoes as a basis from Armlann here in the US. They should be done very soon, and I will post pics. They are going to end up costing roughly $150 I think. Anyways, this might end up being an alternative, especially for people here in the U.S.

Re: Greek footwear - Kallimachos - 12-18-2007

Quote:If anyone is interested. I commissioned a hand stitched pair using Kurt's shoes as a basis from Armlann here in the US. They should be done very soon, and I will post pics. They are going to end up costing roughly $150 I think. Anyways, this might end up being an alternative, especially for people here in the U.S.
Looking forward your shoes and by the way that's much cheaper than mine :wink:

Re: Greek footwear - Chris B - 12-18-2007

Will do. I will post pics as soon as I get them. I am hoping it will be within the month.

Re: Greek footwear - geala - 12-19-2007

Here is a pair of my shoes/boots, alone and in duty together with the true Greek footwear :wink: :

Thracian boots and iphikratids - sitalkes - 01-04-2008

Hi, there's an excellent view of Thracian boots on the carving of Bendis of Eleusis receiving the ephebes from Athens eg http://home.exetel.com.au/bmboats/appearan.htm (but there are much better versions of this picture available). Also have a look at the Thracian peltast on the Attic red-figured kylix from the Harvard University Art Museum (it's on the Perseus page I think - although admittedly the description says he's a generalised barbarian, not necessarily Thracian) but particularly interesting are the boots on the peltast from the 5th Century pelike from Sozopol - the lacing is quite intricate. I think there may have been a foot soldier and a cavalry version, and maybe that lacing points towards the Iphicratids? Where do you see all these pictures plus reconstructions? Well most of my Osprey Thracian book is now available FREE from Google books. None of the images I have seen show heels or soles on the boots. Some other images that make this clear include the Thessalian cavalryman from the Louvre museum http://home.exetel.com.au/bmboats/cloaks.htm and the Metropolitan Museum of Art Thracian used as the basis for the pictures of Thracians in Warry's "Warfare in the Classical World". (I have this image on my computer but I can't seem to insert it in this message)

I have been thinking that the Iphikratid boot might be the key to explaining the Iphikratid reforms. If they were for hoplites, they would improve the grip for the feet(the hoplite had to shove hard while slipping around in gore and excreta). If they were for peltasts, they would help you to run over rough ground and run faster than if you were wearing other footwear. I have a feeling that these shoes, since they got a special name, survived long after the Iphikratid peltast. Are there any pictures of them?

Cheers
Christopher Webber

Re: Greek footwear - hoplite14gr - 01-04-2008

I thought I had a point for heel in the boots from the statue of Boreas in Philopapoy -Athens but after checking several old engravings it seems that the artist who drew heels made an error.
So my reconstruction has an error Sad
Greek colonists first adopted local trapping or else they couldn't survive Thracian conditions.
People had various needs so I belive there were various types of footware for specific hunting/military use.
Best regards

Re: Thracian boots and iphikratids - Kallimachos - 01-05-2008

Quote:there's an excellent view of Thracian boots on the carving of Bendis of Eleusis receiving the ephebes from Athens eg
Christopher, here are some boots reconstrationed, have a look at our Thracian:
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa16 ... C01419.jpg
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa16 ... C01502.jpg

Re: Greek footwear - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-05-2008

I like that setup you have with the boot/sock and sandal boot!
Is the inner boot leather or material of some type?

Re: Greek footwear - Kallimachos - 01-05-2008

I guess you are referring to the Samnit, first pic on the left? He is not a member of our group, so I am not so sure about the material he used for the socks. Wolfgang (our Peltast) made his inner boots/socks out of leather. Second posting of this page.

Re: Greek footwear - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-05-2008

Sorry I meant to direct it to him by name, but forgot! :oops:
Yes, Wolfgangs footwear is what I was referring to, and thanks for answering Kurt! Smile

Re: Greek footwear - Kallimachos - 01-06-2008

Lol, than you are hardy as Stefan, a Hallstadt friend of us
http://www.hallstattzeit.de/Galerie/Mus ... _Gross.jpg

Re: Greek footwear - sitalkes - 01-06-2008

LOL! A hardy warrior indeed - must have been especially cold when wearing all that metal.

Those Thracian boots look terrific! I think that Iphikratids must have looked quite different from Thracian boots, or they wouldn't have got a special name. I think that the reconstruction shown in Warry is probably more likely.

Re: Greek footwear - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-06-2008

I used to collect the fire wood in my bare feet and -25C, I was young and dumb then.....now i'm olderand..... :lol:

Re: Greek footwear - Pericles of Rhodes - 01-23-2008

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Comerus Gallus Romus:2xs1ikzy Wrote:
hoplite14gr:2xs1ikzy Wrote:Clay childrens shoes(!!!) from Agora meuseum in Athens.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoplite14 ... 5a5scd.jpg

...and they look like basketball shoes too!

Kind regards

Very clear! Smile

Also I discovered this reproduction, I like the detailed shoes here & socks.

[Image: 5704a.jpg]
They look very similar to some Roman ones.....that is obviously where the style originated from.... :wink:

Hi Gioi and everyone else who was, and is still, interested! Big Grin

I realise this is a very old post and you may have already found the original but here it is (attached) if your still interested. Looks like you found a pretty accurate copy.

It turns out it is roman (which would explain why it looks 'very similar to roman ones' as you rightly said Cristina! Big Grin )

I took this today after a visit to the British Museum and its description is –
‘Marble relief of a warrior, Roman, 1st Century BC from Rhodes. This broken grave relief shows a warrior dressed in cuirass and helmet leaning on his spear in front of a funerary stele. The serpent at the base symbolises the soul of the deceased. The relief is ‘archaising’ and imitates Greek sculpture of the 5th century BC’

Hope this helps! Big Grin

British museum funeral stele - Paullus Scipio - 01-23-2008

.....or perhaps he was an early re-enactor!! Smile D lol:

Wonder if his kit, especially the footwear was accurate for 5C BC ??