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New 5th c. helmets found? - Virilis - 05-16-2006

Look at this link on a french forum: http://111935.aceboard.fr/111935-543-51 ... asques.htm

Looks like someone has found a new romano/sassanid helmet with a nose quard and some other items. Anyone familiar with these helmets? I think the simpler (byzantine?) helmets were briefly covered in "The Romano-Byzantine Infantry Equipment" by I. P. Stephenson. I might be misinterpereting things due to my bad "french" :wink: .....

Re: New 5th c. helmets found? - Robert Vermaat - 05-17-2006

Quote:Look at this link on a french forum: http://111935.aceboard.fr/111935-543-51 ... asques.htm
Looks like someone has found a new romano/sassanid helmet with a nose quard and some other items. Anyone familiar with these helmets? I think the simpler (byzantine?) helmets were briefly covered in "The Romano-Byzantine Infantry Equipment" by I. P. Stephenson. I might be misinterpereting things due to my bad "french" :wink: .....

I'm not sure about the Sassanid helmet, but the Intercisa 'parts' are the helmet we all know as the 'Guttmann-Intercisa IV'. The Kerak helmets are indeed copied from Stephenson's book. They are of unsure dating, I don't wholly agree with Stephenson on an early Byzantine dating.

Re: New 5th c. helmets found? - gaiusseptimiuslucianus - 08-25-2007

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Virilis:2suuutyf Wrote:I think the simpler (byzantine?) helmets were briefly covered in "The Romano-Byzantine Infantry Equipment" by I. P. Stephenson.
I'm not sure about the Sassanid helmet, but the Intercisa 'parts' are the helmet we all know as the 'Guttmann-Intercisa IV'. The Kerak helmets are indeed copied from Stephenson's book. They are of unsure dating, I don't wholly agree with Stephenson on an early Byzantine dating.

Robert,

A question for you, do you think Stephenson's book is worth picking up? Would it be a useful addition to a library?

Thanks,

Lucianus

Re: New 5th c. helmets found? - Robert Vermaat - 08-27-2007

PM sent.

Re: New 5th c. helmets found? - Conal - 08-28-2007

Robert

can Ii have a PM too please ?

Re: New 5th c. helmets found? - Nectanebo - 08-28-2007

I have seen a colour picture of the first helmet in that picture in "The Arts of War: Arms and Armour of the 7th to 19th centuries (The Nasser D. Khalili Collection of Islamic Art, VOL XXI)". It is identified there as 7th-8th century and though to be late Sassanid or early Islamic.

I'm sure I have a picture of it somewhere.

Found it, click on the thumbnail please:
[Image: th_Iranian_helmet_7th-8th_C_1.01.jpg]