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Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Tarbicus - 08-16-2006
Quote:The armour isn't susceptible to thrusting attacks from any angle unless there is a gap - such as the armpit.But would be better at deflecting and carrying a blow away, especially a spear thrust.
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Dan Howard - 08-16-2006
Good at deflecting upward-angled attacks. Attacks from above, angled downward, might catch in the overlap. But there is nowhere for them to go that may injure the wearer.
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Peter Raftos - 08-31-2006
Just found this illustration by the Brygos painter of Athenian ephebes dressed in Thessalian gear - dated to 480 BC. What do you make of the chest covering Spolas? Subarmalis?Thoracomachus? mmm
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Peter Raftos - 08-31-2006
Let's try that again...
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - hoplite14gr - 08-31-2006
Peter.
I find myself inclined to say spolas here.
But the lad depicted here wears many "outlandish" items.
His headgear is Thracian. His cloack is also a Thacian "zeira".
It is a possibility that his armor is also of Thracian origin.
The artist name also describes him as a Thracian.
Vrygoi were the guys who ambushed Mardonios during the Persian Wars.
Kind regards
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Dan Diffendale - 08-31-2006
Quote:The artist name also describes him as a Thracian.
Vrygoi were the guys who ambushed Mardonios during the Persian Wars.
just for clarification, "Brygos Painter" is a modern name applied to the painter. We know that he painted vases made by a potter named Brygos, but we're not sure if they're the same person.
re - Johnny Shumate - 08-31-2006
Is this not a simple fleece vest/coat..? A sheepskin vest would give you some protection and keep you warm...
Johnny
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Anonymous - 09-02-2006
We have discussed elsewhere whether these pictures represent a sheepskin vest on top of a chiton or simply a very ruffled chiton. Some of the images were very ambiguous, but the one posted by Peter, above, seems indisputable - it's a sheepskin waistcoat.
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - hoplite14gr - 09-03-2006
See thes two very heavily armed peltasts:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoplite14 ... pg&.src=ph
What do you think? (Well, except the fact that tavli (backgamon) is ancient!).
Kind regards
Re: Spolas? "Subarmalis"? - Jason Hoffman - 09-13-2006
Hi Guys, Sorry but there has to be one person that disagrees, I think that they are just ruffled chitons. The type of depiction is also seen on dresses. IMO i think the top one may be a painters error.
Just my two cents/obols worth
Jason