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Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Iraklitos - 10-31-2010

Quote:Also,i'd suggest replacing your spear shaft for something considerably thinner. An inch thick would be ok. Khaire
Giannis
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While I could go thinner, I've found various references that the dory shaft was anywhere from 1in to 2in in diameter. So while mine is at the upper limit, it would be within that range.

Now I could see in later years (Pel. War) when the state was issueing weapons or armor you'd start to see a more uniform standard, but the farther back you go and the more remote an area, you'd get more personal perferences toss'd into the mix. Some guy with big hands is going to want a larger diameter and small hands smaller.

Heck if modern day products can't always hit a uniform definition of size (try on 5 pairs of size 11 shoes and you'll probably get 5 different fits), I can't see where they could do it back in Ancient Greece.

And while I do need to continue to shape my spear head; I think of it as a work in progress, I didn't find any thing to complain about how the shaft felt in my hand so I'll mark it as a keeper.


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-01-2010

Then these references you've found are wrong! Or they mean 1-2 cm not inches,as Voctor Davis Hanson suggests. And he's right.Because you'll never find such a wide shaft,especially for untappered spears. In fact, all pieces of actual shafts that have survived are rather thin. Not to mention that there are refferences of spears breaking easily in battle. Your spear would never break,with the thickness it has.
Additionally,the art correspinds with these views,and the shafts that ae depicted are rather thin,never exceeding one inch in diameter,and often less.
I suggest you make such a shaft out of ash or dogwood,and you'll feel the difference. Also remember that the spear points and butts would have been MUCH lighter than most reproductions.
Khaire
Giannis


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - John Conyard - 11-01-2010

I really do agree about the size of spearshafts. This is really vital if you are to get the correct heft for your spear. I had 20 ash shafts delivered yesterday for Comitatus of around 22-30 mm diameter, all for testing. 25 mm or under is really ideal.


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - hoplite14gr - 11-13-2010

A study on the Clevelant statuete
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

A charging Thessalian
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

A Spartan exile
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

A stout Thracian
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

Reinforced linothorax
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

Repelling cavalry
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

Crushing the Illyrians
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

Rhompheophoros
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koryvantes ... 373778026/

All armors made by Dimitris Katsikis
enjoy!


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-13-2010

Nice shots. :wink:


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - hoplite14gr - 11-13-2010

Eycharistw (Thanks) Giánni!

Kind regards


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Lýsandros - 11-13-2010

Excellent, splendid armor reconstructions. I have several additions to my costume as well, but I wasnt unable to document it. I guess we will have to wait until spring to take photos of it in action. Its too cold in Slovakia right now... and I am not as sturdy as Thracians Smile


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Vindex - 11-14-2010

Excellent photographs hoplite14 (Stephanos). Clearly shows a serious amount of work both in research and kit.

Thank you for posting!


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - hoplite14gr - 11-14-2010

Thanks Moi.
Dimitris started from Byzantine armors. Then he ventured more deep in the past.
He palms to publish something of his research.
The pleasant surprise was that meny "artistic" thing was proved "workable" in reality


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Dienekes_Hoplite - 11-14-2010

Thank you all for your Good words.

Dimitris Katsikis is our constructor and a member of our society . For anyone interested his email is [email protected]

Kind regards.

Dienekes


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Seilinos - 11-14-2010

Looking good. The different techniques for making a spolas are interesting, and inspiring. I'll have a go at making my own armour, and these pics give an idea of the possibilities. Thanks for posting!


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - John Conyard - 11-17-2010

I took a few minutes off from playing a cavalryman (take a look at the cavalry thread) to grap a dory, aspis and pilos.
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I like the photos because they show the re-worked scabbard on my short sword.
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Sorry the pictures are so dark, but it was the end of the day.


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-17-2010

Looks good John, how does the heft feel?
I want a pair of those boots too lol


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-17-2010

I like them much,John! If only they had some more light. I see you made a throat for your swort sword. What did you make it of? It looks like you copied it from the Osprey illustration on the "Greek Hoplite" Book. If you want pm me about some objections i have on their design.

Here's a photo of me that i liked. Taken at a summer sunset some hundret meters from the Acropolis of ancient Doriskos. (They've started doing excavations on there again)
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Khairete
Giannis


Re: Show here your Greek warrior impression - Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-17-2010

A bit of brightness/contrast playing did the trick. Hope you don't mind i posted them.
Khaire
Giannis