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Re: licensing and liability - Cornelius Quintus - 11-12-2006
Quote:Getting back to that 262, did they have to license that from Messerschmidt? I just have to wonder what the FAA regulations would be for a production run of an aircraft like that.
Ave Richard,
the former Messerschmitt AG dont’ exist any more. About 1969 there was a chain of fusions with Bölkow and Siebel leading to a new company MBB Messerschmitt Bölkow Blohm. Twenty years later, the ‘Deutsche aerospace’ took over industrial leadership, (now being called ‘DASA - Daimler Chrysler Aerospace AG’.)
All well known German pioneer companies were mixed by fusions and their remains concentrated to more or less one unit. So I doubt that even if a kind of copyright would be in force, someone would be interested to claim rights. For sure they might help reconstructing it. But how would it look to their actual international business partners, if they would charge licence fees for a WW II GERMAN fighter plane? :lol:
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-12-2006
I love the Mosquito too: fast, elegant, safe..., great!
Vale,
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-12-2006
Here is the 262 replica website with infos:
[url:3asu004v]http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html[/url]
Valete,
Re: flying 262s again... - Virilis - 11-12-2006
I found these a couple of years ago from our local second hand shop. They are in PRISTINE condition. Oh what memories these cataloques brought back
...
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-12-2006
Yeah, I remember them!
I had an older Airfix catalog, the 1965 issue, I'm older... My first Airfix kit, at nine, was a P-39 Airacobra (grey plastic), once assembled I did not paint it, I directly fired it and throwed from the balcony of my home like it was shot down with a flaming smoke trail... Wooow!
My second one was a Spit IX, light blue plastic, same end...
Maybe you will like these:
[url:3nmqrork]http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/p-quiz.htm[/url]
and the Airfix forum:
[url:3nmqrork]http://airfixcollecting.forumup.be/index.php?mforum=airfixcollecting[/url]
Vale,
Re: flying 262s again... - Ioannis - 11-12-2006
Quote:Yeah, I remember them!
My first Airfix kit, at nine, was a P-39 Airacobra (grey plastic), once assembled I did not paint it, I directly fired it and throwed from the balcony of my home like it was shot down with a flaming smoke trail... Wooow!
My first Airfix was a Jaguar GR.1 and it had exactly the same fate as your P-39! :lol:
Re: flying 262s again... - Virilis - 11-13-2006
Thanks Daniele for these great links!
Quote: I directly fired it and throwed from the balconyMe too! In addition we used to blow them up with little bombs, especially on the new years eve. We also shot them with air powered lead pellet guns!
Re: flying 262s again... - Avatar - 11-13-2006
Aaaaawwww... I want one...
I love WWII-era fighters... From the Spitfire to the ME-109, from the Warhawk to the ME-263...
I especially love the Spitfire, the ME-109, the FW-190, the F4U and the ME-262...
Quote:*snip*a 262, the prettiest bird of the whole Second War...
Aitor
Well, the jury is out on that one... I preffer the late WWII Spitfire(or just the Spitfire in general)...
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-13-2006
Little bombs? Yeah! Me too! We also put on them some small rocket petards! Once we put a rocket petard in a 1/48 Me163 Komet, well it took off like the true Komet firstly horizontal, then vertical up to the air “Wie ein Floh - aber oho!â€
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-13-2006
Cannot resist,
![[Image: rc006.jpg]](http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/images/rc006.jpg)
![[Image: rc009.jpg]](http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/images/rc009.jpg)
![[Image: rc010.jpg]](http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/images/rc010.jpg)
more at:
[url:2t56abjl]http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/rc02.htm[/url]
Re: flying 262s again... - Virilis - 11-13-2006
Here are some comic strips about the planes we love! Unfortunately my french isn`t very good :wink: ....
http://modelbox.free.fr/dossiers/Eggs_P ... rbaud.html
Re: flying 262s again... - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 11-13-2006
Very, very, very nice!
Jean Barbaud is a great illustrator! His love for airplanes is evident from the high level of details... BRAVO!
![[Image: folgore.jpg]](http://www.himmelsstuermer.ch/Medien/aktuell06/mar06/folgore.jpg)
It tells about: "Ok, Ciao! You'll get the italian sauce from roast meat, another time!"
This is for you Jim!
![[Image: dehavillandmosquitofb65ow.jpg]](http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/2263/dehavillandmosquitofb65ow.jpg)
"No doubt! The Mosquito is not suitable to the tropical climate!"
Vale,
Re: flying 262s again... - Carus Andiae - 11-14-2006
Was I the only one who sat through that video with a silly grin on my face?
Re: flying 262s again... - Robert Vermaat - 11-14-2006
Quote:BTW, there is a guy in Germany that personally fly (I guess with a lot of fun...) a 1/1 homebuilt red KometDoes he indeed take off with a rocket up his backside?
Or does he use another plane to get him in the air?
Re: flying 262s again... - Cornelius Quintus - 11-14-2006
Quote:Does he indeed take off with a rocket up his backside?
Or does he use another plane to get him in the air?
Ave Robert,
the latter. The photograph in the middle shows a wire cable at the front.
So he's 'towed' by a motor-plane or hooked on to a motor winch, placed at the opposite end of the airfield. That's how we were used to start with our gliders - and the experimental plane looks like a glider to me (as the original also was constructed for motorless flight, except a booster rocket just for take off and reach it's operating flight level.)
Anyway, the wire cable will be released by a kind of lever in the cockpit and either carried away by the motor-plane or rolled in by a winch. If a small parachute could also be seen on a photo, it would indicate starting by a winch (a parachute secures that the end of the long cable will fall down with lower speed and give enough resistance to the winch to roll the cable in without raveling the cable. A motor-plane would just drop off the 'tow rope' before landing).