06-18-2008, 02:10 PM
So... I'm finally making kit. The unanswered questions are piling up.
In vase paintings, especially of hunters and travelers (important note--for my first kit, I'm making hunting clothes, not hoplite clothes!) the men seem to be wearing gaiters--or boots.
Now, the Egyptian statuette of Alexander in an Elephant skin shows a busking boot pretty well. But that doesn't seem to be what the Athenians are wearing in 450 BC.
Thracian boots SEEM to be made like booted moccasins
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In 1 and 2 you see Thracian boots or their Athenian copies. In 3, you see the only image I could find of some one putting on boots--note that they pull on and have no openings, and in party scenes, they are often depicted as standing--thus stiff. This may be another type of boot altogether, of course.
4, 5, and 6 illustrate--well, they illustrate something! 4 has shoes (???) that seem smooth and seamless. They could be Thracian bots with gaiters--odd as that sounds. Any ideas?
5 shows a huntsmen seated, with net or grid sandals worn with gaiters and a good illustration of hos the straps around the gaiters actually "work." Note that for the strap running under the foot to function, either his sandals are soft like mocs or there are heels on his sandals. Also note that there's no hint of a foot in their. Almost as if he's wearing stockings.
6 shows two subtly different styles--on the left, cow skin or goatskin slippers, almost like scots ghilly shoes. Look carefully. Tell me if you think I'm wrong. They look like they have the hair still on--which is consistent with at least one period source and with the Iliad. BUT why do his puttees or gaiters have a curved back? How the heck was that effect acheived? it can't be artist error--it occurs on other paintings and is always consistent on both legs! So--does that mean these are NOT wraps?
6 on the right seems to show (a relief to me) that there are ties at the top of his gaiters, and he's wearing them over sandals. Thank heavens--there's one I think I understand.
Now, are these actually gaiters, or stockings? If gaiters, are they linen or wool? If stockings (tears his hair out) where'd they come from?
) )
In vase paintings, especially of hunters and travelers (important note--for my first kit, I'm making hunting clothes, not hoplite clothes!) the men seem to be wearing gaiters--or boots.
Now, the Egyptian statuette of Alexander in an Elephant skin shows a busking boot pretty well. But that doesn't seem to be what the Athenians are wearing in 450 BC.
Thracian boots SEEM to be made like booted moccasins
In 1 and 2 you see Thracian boots or their Athenian copies. In 3, you see the only image I could find of some one putting on boots--note that they pull on and have no openings, and in party scenes, they are often depicted as standing--thus stiff. This may be another type of boot altogether, of course.
4, 5, and 6 illustrate--well, they illustrate something! 4 has shoes (???) that seem smooth and seamless. They could be Thracian bots with gaiters--odd as that sounds. Any ideas?
5 shows a huntsmen seated, with net or grid sandals worn with gaiters and a good illustration of hos the straps around the gaiters actually "work." Note that for the strap running under the foot to function, either his sandals are soft like mocs or there are heels on his sandals. Also note that there's no hint of a foot in their. Almost as if he's wearing stockings.
6 shows two subtly different styles--on the left, cow skin or goatskin slippers, almost like scots ghilly shoes. Look carefully. Tell me if you think I'm wrong. They look like they have the hair still on--which is consistent with at least one period source and with the Iliad. BUT why do his puttees or gaiters have a curved back? How the heck was that effect acheived? it can't be artist error--it occurs on other paintings and is always consistent on both legs! So--does that mean these are NOT wraps?
6 on the right seems to show (a relief to me) that there are ties at the top of his gaiters, and he's wearing them over sandals. Thank heavens--there's one I think I understand.
Now, are these actually gaiters, or stockings? If gaiters, are they linen or wool? If stockings (tears his hair out) where'd they come from?
) )
Qui plus fait, miex vault.
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