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I want to make a couple of civilian belts. Problem is, I am not sure what kind of belts would be for civilians...metal plates? Plain? Toggles like Celtic belts? What kind of buckles?
These would be the sort that would be worn with an ordinary tunic, in the event that a rope or sash was not worn. Would a fascia ventralis be worn under the belt?
Most all the pictures from mosaics, etc., I find have such a blouson tunic, you can't see the belt, but obviously there is something under the bloused out upper part of the tunic....
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It should be a narrow cloth or leather belt. I would keep it very plain as I don't think it was an excepted form of jewelry or something that a civilian would overadorn. Thats more of a military and "barbarian" thing.
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Agreed, unless you're replicating Tyrian purple somewhere in your garments I personally wouldn't get any fancier than perhaps a colorful dye job on the leather (if you use leather).
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What sort of buckle do you think would be appropriate for a citizen of at least merchant class, not necessarily Equestrian?
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Quote:Tarbicus:1jo2wm0j Wrote:I'd suggest civilian belts could be ornate.
Indeed, but mainly for the rich.
Source? Assumption? Or, "Probably for the rich"? :wink:
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Most medieval and early modern city digs tend to turn up lots and lots of belt mounts, buckles and strap-ends of all shapes and sizes, many of the belt mounts just simple copper alloy sheet metal affairs. I suspect one would find something similar if going through a roman urban dig, but I don't know of any spesific examples.
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So are we saying that a buckle IS or ISN'T the norm? I'm assuming "belt mounts" means something like a two-piece hook/toggle and loop (in one of the many configurations).
The trouble with most of those is that they lack much adjustability...if one wears a thick tunic, or wants to belt around the cloak (for really cold windy days) the fixed length belt just won't work.
If a buckle, then, should it be of the simple kind as used for lorica seg fastenings, or more elaborate, like on a cingulum?
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Well, I attempted a registration for entry to the forum. I'm not sure what this means:
Quote:Hva holder den norske riksløven?
Skriv inn bokstaven foran riktig alternativ:
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B. Dør
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D. Øks
E. Felg
F. Speil
Guess I picked the wrong answer, because it booted me back to the start. Oh, well, so it goes.
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what about tablet-weaved belts?
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We have some tablet woven sashes, and it looks like the belt above is tablet woven, but I think, just from the gut feeling, that it's later than Augustan/1st Cent. The buckles and fittings look to be later than that. Am I right?
I was trying to find what kind of buckles would be appropriate if the person wanted a leather belt. I didn't specify Principate to mid 1st C. Sorry.
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