KALKRIESE IMPRESSION

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Sounds great Heiko!

and what is this? 'Carnuntum Jahrbuch 2005'

[Cornelius Quintus]

Ave Byron,

the Carnuntum Jahrbuch (year-book) is an annual publication by the Austrian Academy of Science, named after the ancient Roman legion camp and city Carnuntum in Austria.
The 2005 volume features the ROMEC conference 2004. Roughly translated: ‘Archaelogy of Battlefields – Military Items from Horizons of Destruction’.
One article is about Kalkriese, featuring the photo of both plates. Another article was helpful for the reconstruction of Deepeeka’s Krefeld helmet :wink:

The complete title is:

Carnuntum-Jahrbuch: Zeitschrift für Archäologie und Kulturgeschichte des Donauraumes: Archäologie der Schlachfelder. Militaria aus Zerstörungshorizonten. 2005
240 pages
Verlag der österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften; Auflage: 1 (22. August 2005)
ISBN-10: 3700135491
ISBN-13: 978-3700135494

[Cornelius Quintus]

Avete omnes,

here’s a new drawing of the second plate. For size and shape comparison, I’ve added a rough outline of the well known first plate.

[Nerva]

ok, I'll expand. The first plate has linear markings with verdigrises about 2 to 3mm from the outside edge along two sides of the plate (left and bottom sides as you look at the plate, so it's not wrong to assume there was an edging, it may have been brass or copper (probably closer to what we now call guildingmetal - high copper content).

I have not seen the second plate, but according to the archaeologists the plate shows no signs of edging but, again I stress, I have not seen the plate so I have to take her at her word.

Again according to the same archaeologist, they believe the armour to be closer in design to Newstead than Corbrige. A couple of other things though...no other armour plates of any description have been identified so far however hinges which 'may' have been attached to armour have been found.

I'll publish some photo's of the plate up on our site tomorrow if people wish to see them.

As I said before the plate on display is quite heavy. I can only imagine that a lorica made up of similar gauge steel would have been much more heavy that what we're used to wearing.

I am very surprised to see that a drawing of the second plate was published as far back as 2004 as she gave me the definite impression that the 'second' plate she was referring to was found only last year...is there a third plate now???? Oh well, We'll find out in 2009.

[Crispvs]

When I was at Kalkriese in 2005 I saw a photograph of the mid-collar plate Heiko has drawn stuck to one of the inside walls of the tall steel tower they have built at the site. If I recall correctly it was on the third floor. I have the vague impression that there may have been a photograph of the Kalkriese breastplate below it.

Crispvs

[Nerva]

I didn't see that. You've got to admit though, there's a strange series of steel buildings around the site. Even the little ones out in the 'field'. There's nothing in them apart from one where there an inverted image of the field.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

DUNNN-da-du-dun! How very mysterious! :?

[Magnus]

Hibernicus\\n[quote]I believe that it was folk who've actually handled/examined the breastplate who proposed the idea that it could have had a brass edging.

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[Hibernicus]

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[Magnus]

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