05-16-2007, 07:06 PM
Salve,
When I look at examples of Roman Soldier sculptures, both legionary and auxiliaries, almost all appear to be wearing two belts.
The top belt holds the gladius, which is worn on the right hip, the second belt, underneath the first, hangs behind and holds the pugio.
Sometimes a sword is hanging from a shoulder strap, other times a pugio is tied in the front but In most cases, the pugio appears to be attached directly to the frogs and is on a second belt that hangs below and underneath the first; it does not appear to be hanging from a strap attached to one belt (as in modern recreation).
1. Is it possible that the modern recreation method of hanging the pugio from a strap attached to one belt was a misinterpretation?
2. Did the second belt, which was worn underneath the first, get misinterpreted as a strap?
3. Should we ideally be wearing two belts and hanging the pugio directly to the frogs?
Please look at these examples, both Sculptures and sketches first, then please post your opinions. Yes this is art but, it's honestly all I have to go by at this time.
Thanks!
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p239/mcbishop/BandC2/?action=view¤t=fig150.png[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/thumbs/imagebase_FirstnameAB_lg_AnnaiusDaverzusd1_jpg_large.jpg[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/thumbs/imagebase_FirstnameNP_lg_PFlavoleiusCordusd1_jpg_large.jpg[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/stories/imagebase/Unknowns/lg_unkMilesMainzIId1.jpg[/url]
These links were originally posted by TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
Daverzus
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,15/Itemid,94/[/url]
Firmus
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,142/Itemid,94/[/url]
Hyperanor (difficult to see)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,36/Itemid,94/[/url]
Facilis
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,50/Itemid,94/[/url]
Lorarius (at front, straps around)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,83/Itemid,94/[/url]
Pintaius
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,43/Itemid,94/[/url]
Cordus (this one definitely is IMHO)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,7/Itemid,94/[/url]
Secundus (his looks distant from the frog)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,7/Itemid,94/[/url]
Pantera
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,37/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown engineer Cologne
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,33/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown miles Cologne
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,207/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown miles Mainz
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,54/Itemid,94/[/url]
When I look at examples of Roman Soldier sculptures, both legionary and auxiliaries, almost all appear to be wearing two belts.
The top belt holds the gladius, which is worn on the right hip, the second belt, underneath the first, hangs behind and holds the pugio.
Sometimes a sword is hanging from a shoulder strap, other times a pugio is tied in the front but In most cases, the pugio appears to be attached directly to the frogs and is on a second belt that hangs below and underneath the first; it does not appear to be hanging from a strap attached to one belt (as in modern recreation).
1. Is it possible that the modern recreation method of hanging the pugio from a strap attached to one belt was a misinterpretation?
2. Did the second belt, which was worn underneath the first, get misinterpreted as a strap?
3. Should we ideally be wearing two belts and hanging the pugio directly to the frogs?
Please look at these examples, both Sculptures and sketches first, then please post your opinions. Yes this is art but, it's honestly all I have to go by at this time.
Thanks!
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p239/mcbishop/BandC2/?action=view¤t=fig150.png[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/thumbs/imagebase_FirstnameAB_lg_AnnaiusDaverzusd1_jpg_large.jpg[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/thumbs/imagebase_FirstnameNP_lg_PFlavoleiusCordusd1_jpg_large.jpg[/url]
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/images/stories/imagebase/Unknowns/lg_unkMilesMainzIId1.jpg[/url]
These links were originally posted by TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
Daverzus
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,15/Itemid,94/[/url]
Firmus
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,142/Itemid,94/[/url]
Hyperanor (difficult to see)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,36/Itemid,94/[/url]
Facilis
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,50/Itemid,94/[/url]
Lorarius (at front, straps around)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,83/Itemid,94/[/url]
Pintaius
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,43/Itemid,94/[/url]
Cordus (this one definitely is IMHO)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,7/Itemid,94/[/url]
Secundus (his looks distant from the frog)
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,7/Itemid,94/[/url]
Pantera
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,37/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown engineer Cologne
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,33/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown miles Cologne
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,207/Itemid,94/[/url]
Unknown miles Mainz
[url:2bh7gdh7]http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,54/Itemid,94/[/url]
Vale!
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Antonivs Marivs Congianocvs
aka_ANTH0NY_C0NGIAN0
My ancient coin collection:
[url:3lgwsbe7]http://www.congiano.com/MyCoins/index.htm[/url]