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Assyrian shield
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Does anyone know the Assyrian relief that the shield depicted below on the left is from? I cannot track it down. The shield type on the right is common.
Paul M. Bardunias
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#2
The right one I think is not Assyrian but comes from Persepolis.
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#3
[Image: cid_aj2334_b.jpg]

This is in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin.

It is apparently from the Palace of Sanherib in Ninevah.
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#4
another one
Author: Bronze Age Military Equipment, Pen & Sword Books
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#5
Quote:The right one I think is not Assyrian but comes from Persepolis

As justin showed above, it is common on Assyrian reliefs. There are many images of shields with this flattened cone shape. If we can identify the troops by their head-gear, it appears to be in use by a variety of peoples in the near east. That one on the left in my first post is very aspis-ish and I have never seen the profile before on anything Assyrian. I'm trying to track down images of Anatolian shields of this era. Below is a bronze Urartian shield that is both domed and rimmed.
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Is this the shield from Persepolis you were thinking of Stephanos?
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#7
Here are some more Assyrian, or allied, shields. There are two main types seen in addition to a big Spara-type body-shield. The first is the cone-shaped seen above, while the second is a hemi-cylinder (like a round topped scutum). There are also many other types of square and round buckler- some spiked!

I know very little about Assyrian arms and who the troops are holding the varios types of shield- native or allied troops. If anyone knows more, or has a good reference on this please share.
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Quote:Is this the shield from Persepolis you were thinking of Stephanos?
These are Thracians, BTW. The Assyrians belonged to the satrapy of Babirush (Babylonia) and are represented like this:
[Image: 05_babylonians_1.JPG]
I believe that the original drawing is not based on a Persepolitan relief, although I may be wrong.
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#9
To restart this thread, I thought some might like to see how close some ancient Greek and Assyrian helms were. Here is an image from a Spartan vase alongside a 9th-8th c BC Assyrian helmet of a style seen in Assyrian, Urartian and Neo-hittite depictions.
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