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Yes folks its "roundin'-up-the-2011-crop-time" -- at least amongst Archeologists.
To judge from various press-notes (I haven't found the original press-release yet)there's
a lot from the 2011 campaign at Hedemünden and the area aroung coming at you.
What I understood: There are a dozen of roman outposts around the camp(s) at Hedemünden,
some already prominent like the Kring.
But they claim to have found a have a dozen of smaller outposts (like watchtowers) near
Hedemünden on high ground. (Near Dahlenrode [2],near Groß Lengden [1],Reyershausen [2] and two further in the woods of Jühnde)
Amongst others:
http://www.hna.de/nachrichten/landkreis-...95398.html
(Some press-notes say only "four".)
These are amongst 12 outposts in all alongsides a prehistoric trading route running north-south found during the last few years.
And now here's the point: The new-found posts date from the 1st to the third century
(yes -- NOT "decade" !!).
Ahhh yes -- those posts they weere mainly traced by finds of an ample number of roman hobnails. [Did I hear somebody say Harzhorn ?" :mrgreen: ]
I'll report back as soon as I know more. :roll:
Greez
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Ahh yes-- and the traces of trenches and other things southeast of the Hedemünden camps
already known do point in the direction of a larger marching camp there.
(I faintly remember that there have already been such suspicions uttered a year or two back.)
Some older (but still interesting) pics of what is planned at Hedemünden:
http://www.goettinger-tageblatt.de/Nachr...ffset%29/0
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Hasn't this site been excavated since at least 2008? If not 2006?
I know our grey literature in the UK can be a bit delayed but I think they're taking this to extremes! :?
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.... IIRC they've been digging there(abouts) since 2003.
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Even worse!
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http://lostfort.blogspot.com/2006/10/mor...hings.html
I just came across this by accident!!
Sorry if everyone has seen it already, but nice pieces!
I would love some of these as repros.
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There will be a good part of next years exhibition at Braunschweig ( that one on the Harzhorn)
dedicated to Hedemünden, too.
But meanwhile, as this here http://www.hna.de/nachrichten/landkreis-...74705.html
says district archeologist Dr. Klaus Grote has published a new book about Hedemünden.
Since it took four years to make, expect it to be a hefty (496 pages) update on his earlier books and essays on that very subject.
It is to be published in the Sanstein-Verlag Dresden, costing 59,--€ till Dec. 1st 2012 and
79,--€ thereafter.
But ..... wait , it is neither mentioned on the Sandstein-Verlag's own website
http://verlag.sandstein.de/index.php?cPath=22
nor on Dr. Grote's, yet.
http://www.grote-archaeologie.de/roemer.html
I have subscribed to a newsletter from Sandstein-Verlag to get the informations as early as possible.
In the meanwhile
Greez
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...it's online now :
http://verlag.sandstein.de/product_info....cts_id=338
Dr. Grotes website has been updated:
http://www.grote-archaeologie.de/roemer.html
Scroll down a bit.
Pics pics pics :woot:
Greez
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Ahmmmmm --- not affiliated with the Sandstein-Verlag ( and neither with the Beton-Verlag !)
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Lots of pics - great!
Could I trouble you to tell me what a "Zugjoch" is please? It's in the photo with the snaffle (and a very interesting snaffle it is too!)
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Quote:Could I trouble you to tell me what a "Zugjoch" is please?
"Draught yoke" ?? :dizzy:
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Hi
1) Just ordered the book.
2) @ Moi : Zugjoch ~ a yoke, part of a pulling harness for draught animals
I think it joins some sort of side-belts. (Roughly speaking -- my experience as peasant(and a brish one !)are , -- well, minuscle -- at best. :whistle:
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D.B. just beat me by a narrow margin, maybe he had more experience than I ( ... in English, that'd be of course :mrgreen: )
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Thank you to you both...that may explain the holes in it.
I was getting all excited in case it was another type of bit (believe it or not there is something very similar in modern usage!)
I'll stop getting excited now... ;-)
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....finally got Dr. Grote's book about two weeks ago, but since I have a "waiting list" in reviews and not much time..... we'll I also happen to be quite "nosy" so I gave it a very quick "glance-over".
In short:
It's big and bulky and seem to be quite concise and ..... it's "interim" ....
that means
1) prospection at Hedemünden will go on for years -- well into the modern community of Hedemünden
a sizeable marching camp under its "industrial estate areas" is to be researched
2) There are more roman traces in the vicinity of Hedemünden and I'm not talking about the outposts "Kring" and "Ellerode" (BTW especially there also traces of larger roman structures , a possible marching camp, have beendetected) or the watchtowers in the area , belonging to another era than the Hedemünden "supply camp", BTW.
Your "quick 'n dirty"
Simplex
Yes, I'd say 59,-- or , now, 69,--€ seem to be "money well spent" -- given the fact that you understand a bit German. (You may have betted: Pics and maps are included, of course)
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I have it too, and am very happy. More dodgy daggers, btw.
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Just to give you a (slight) update:
As of today, the local HNA gave new informations about Hedemünden and its surroundings, allegedly originating from Dr. Klaus Grote , the local chief-archeologist, although they failed to give a "when" and "when" they have got this informations.
http://www.hna.de/lokales/witzenhausen/r...66574.html
These informations partly have been hinted at in Dr. Grote's book of 2012, although not fully disclosed.
Grossly stated, these lines say that the Roman occupation went along the lines of the Werra valley and also the Ulfe valley.
Massive finds of Roman hobnails at various places underpin this.
The places mentioned:
1) On the "Weidscher Kopf" above the Werra valley between Berkatal-Hitzerode and Bad Sooden-Allendorf-Kleinvach .
The circumwalled place here has long been known as "Römerschanze" (Roman fortification) giving the best of view over river Werra running nearby.
In that context Grote had already stressed the fact that the romans made ample use of flat-bottomed boats for provisioning the forward troops.
2) On the Ottilienberg between Sontra-Ulfen and -Wölfterode near the place of "Blinde Mühle"
The place here, resembling the place at Ellerode, which had already been mentioned in Grote's book, served as a lookout.
More informations as soon as I'll get them.
Greez
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Recent reconstructions:
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http:...A&dur=2413
Greez
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Dunno whether I already posted that one (from the NLD Niedersachsen)
http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&e...1936,d.ZWU
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