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Show here your Greek warrior impression
Similar exist in Delos and it is supposed to be a Cretan mercenary.

Its not mine Craig. It belongs to my good friend Mark.

I see somebody in your group likes the Pythagoreans as I see from the white star on the black shield.


Kind regards
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Stefanos

Yes they wanted something completely different on the shield blazon. There are so any great patterns to chose from.

Here are two Shields I worked on with friends. One I only use for ceremonial or banquets now.
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They look great!
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Quote:Stefanos

Yes they wanted something completely different on the shield blazon. There are so any great patterns to chose from.

Here are two Shields I worked on with friends. One I only use for ceremonial or banquets now.

ancient porn on the shield very effective it distracts all the enemys
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I cant see any pics. :roll:
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Quote:I cant see any pics. :roll:
Mmhh.. I can't see your avatar either, but I see the pictures in the thread well enough.
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Hi, chaps,

Thanks for the comments. Steve Senior and I can be recognised by his Lambda and my black bull's head on blue field shield devices, in the first photo. The "soft focus" appearance is due to the (highly-authentic!) dust raised in the battle.

As regards the Lambdas and some other anachronisms, we know what they are, but many people want a particular piece for their personal interest and so we have a spread of equipment form Archaic Bell Cuirass
(Eduardo) through to the Lambda (Steve and at least one other).

We did not point out these things in the formal, arena presentation, but the talk did cover Archaic to Hellenistic times. Eduardo is still working on how to deliver the "didactic" element and, indeed, made a number of changes in it over the course of the weekend, putting his experience directly and immediately into practice.

I believe Ancient Greek groups need to cover this whole range and, given the scarcity of such things, they will have to generalise, rather than specialise, at least for the time being.

There is a particular problem with Sparta, because so many people want to represent it and they want their affiliation to be as obvious as possible, so they get Lambda shields. The public is currently receptive to this, but not to the notion of Spartans with individual, tribal or local devices. Let's face it, if you're going to pay £500 for a shield, you're going to buy your favourite type! Also, Steve, for example, began re-enacting independently and put together a Spartan, Peloponnesian War, panoply, prior to joining a group which had an earlier focus.

Athenea Promakhos have some non-metallic kit - most of which you wouldn't spot as such - but are working towards abandoning it, as indeed, they are working towards the highest standards possible, in every respect.
The group has exploded in numbers, recently (a mark of its success) and so, in order to allow the new members to take part, with some equipment, they have continued to use some kit which they might otherwise have left at home. That this allowed them to field enough men to re-create believable combat is sufficient justification for the policy, I believe.

I think it is correct to say that Eduardo's is now the largest Ancient Greek group in the world, in terms of Hoplites fielded. They deserve great credit for what they are achieving. Eduardo clearly has some very able supporters - Juan-Carlos, Mariano and Alvaro spring to mind - but it is also very clear that Athenea Promakhos owes it success, as well as its origin, to his vision, energy and abilities. Steve and I honour him as a great re-enactor and group leader and are very grateful for the opportunity he gave us to work alongside him and his fellows at Tarraco Viva.

Next stop, Sheffield!
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Hi Paul,
I'm glad to have met you both at Tarraco. Hope you enjoyed your stay in Spain. If you want to see more pics -including your battle wounds- have a look in the relevant 'Events' thread:

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=16438

I completely agree with you that Eduardo is doing a magnificient work. But as many purists would attack a seemingly easy prey, I believe that such a quick growth for a young group should be managed with care, to avoid exchanging quality for quantity. But I insist, in this case the problems Cesar remarked were more than balanced by the right feeling of a phalanx attack that such a big number of hoplites provided, as I hope my pictures prove. As for the explanations, I'm glad Eduardo adopted some of the suggestions I made to him to modify the earlier 'academic lecture' approach.
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That is one Bling sheild on the left Craig! 8)
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I think too the MAGNIFIC order of batle seen in past festival justifies the use of some "tricks".

I apologises if my words were a little "hard". I want to say BRAVO to all the greeks who take part in Tarraco Viva, for his well done work.

I know personally Eduardo, and i can say it's a very good leader and knows as nobody greek weaponry. But i can sugest him to don't grow more in number, and consolidate the equipment. In other fall, always will be those plastic kit for the newcomers.

Problem buying bad equipment it's you always have it, even when buys new good replacement pieces, so always is the tempation to use it in order to provide more number of soldiers.

I know, because in my group there are some very bad pieces too, and it's hard to say to the members who owned it to don't use it.
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Hoplites storm and capture the crowd's admiration at the prize award ceremony of "Historical vigniette exibition" in Athens:
http://www.starclubathens.gr/athenshoweng.htm
http://www.starclubathens.gr/wncen.htm

Me and Diomedes:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178 ... 0_2550.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178 ... 0_2549.jpg

NEOYS DIDASKE! (teach the young!)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178 ... 0_2569.jpg

A very happy Starclub Athens President
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178 ... 0_2561.jpg

KInd regards
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Hi
I am the "lambda" trespasser, well I share the honour with Steve and Jose that can not be seen because they advance in second row.
Regarding the plastic gear, is true that some of the aspides are glass fiber made, try to make one in wood and bronce nowadays...
But not a single helmet, cuirass or any other equipment is made of plastic.
Alberto

"Amor patriae nostra lex"
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By the way,those fiber glass shieldes look really great!And the design on them too.Do they have a wooden core or are they made entirely of plaster?
Khaire
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They have a wooden core and structure. In fact they were very difficult to make, the people that made them thought that they could make them only using a plaster sheet, but they realiced that they were too weak and that was not possible to fix the porpax, then they had to make two plates with a inner wooden structure.
I doubt they will make them for us again...
Alberto

"Amor patriae nostra lex"
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As promised video of the Miniature show event.
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t178 ... 0_2562.flv

Please forgive the atrocius quality.
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