12-14-2006, 09:49 AM
Gentlemen, sorry to be irritant just before Saturnalia and Dies Natalis Soli Inuicti feasts, but you seem to forget the core problem: the critical mass of the asian monster nations.
It's clear that we Humans are helping the degenerative process by our consumptions and you can use anything like wind farms, corn plastics, hybrid engines, solar panels and all the loads of nice eco-stuff that can deceive us for a while, BUT about the Asians:
a) they are billions,
b) due to their mind state and culture they don't take care so much about environment
c) they WANT to live exactly at the same our rate of resources consumption
d) they want cars, air conditioning, freezers, shopping, vacations, travels, fashion, delicious food, entertainment, etc.
e) they are clever, able and astute,
f) they can and want to work harder than us
g) they are able to sacrifice themselves to get some goals yet
h) they have already begun to do all that above (do the word Deepeeka tell you anything?)
i) when THEY will understand the real situation, it will be too late
My brother did a first long travel in Asia about fifteen years ago and was surprised to see in Indonesia a lot of millions of people cities that we never heard in our life, and see them from the plane was very impressive and upsetting (a sort of Blade runner stuff). He came back recently to Asia to get Japan and passed through the monster nations (mainly India, China, Indonesia, not to mention the african ones) and what he saw was the confirmation of his early suspicion: they go ahead too much quickly.
Now, what can we (Occidentals) REALLY do? Will the asians become the masters of the world, no doubt about it, but can (or want) we isolate our way of life and preserve our share of envinronment or not? And our culture? Will it annihilated in a monstrous "cultural" milk-shake? Unfortunately we cannot do so much I think. I just hope that we "Occidentals" and our sons will not become the waiters and servants of the Asians.
The only help could be to wake-up quickly our Youth, beginning by a more appropriate education within the families and the schools, to tell them the REAL situation and explain to them that we could pay hard our stupid frivolousness.
Just a pray: please, avoid to start some of those old fossil accusatory motions about a presumed racism because this is absolutely NOT a racism, nor religious, nor political matter. Better a honest egoism matter, yes, because I'd simply like that our occidental civilization can save itself and continue for centuries, but in this case it's "safe" egoism, or not? Even if totally useless, I guess.
Ah, BTW, what the Romans should do to face a problem like this?
Valete, and sorry for the momentary pessimism folks!
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It's clear that we Humans are helping the degenerative process by our consumptions and you can use anything like wind farms, corn plastics, hybrid engines, solar panels and all the loads of nice eco-stuff that can deceive us for a while, BUT about the Asians:
a) they are billions,
b) due to their mind state and culture they don't take care so much about environment
c) they WANT to live exactly at the same our rate of resources consumption
d) they want cars, air conditioning, freezers, shopping, vacations, travels, fashion, delicious food, entertainment, etc.
e) they are clever, able and astute,
f) they can and want to work harder than us
g) they are able to sacrifice themselves to get some goals yet
h) they have already begun to do all that above (do the word Deepeeka tell you anything?)
i) when THEY will understand the real situation, it will be too late
My brother did a first long travel in Asia about fifteen years ago and was surprised to see in Indonesia a lot of millions of people cities that we never heard in our life, and see them from the plane was very impressive and upsetting (a sort of Blade runner stuff). He came back recently to Asia to get Japan and passed through the monster nations (mainly India, China, Indonesia, not to mention the african ones) and what he saw was the confirmation of his early suspicion: they go ahead too much quickly.
Now, what can we (Occidentals) REALLY do? Will the asians become the masters of the world, no doubt about it, but can (or want) we isolate our way of life and preserve our share of envinronment or not? And our culture? Will it annihilated in a monstrous "cultural" milk-shake? Unfortunately we cannot do so much I think. I just hope that we "Occidentals" and our sons will not become the waiters and servants of the Asians.
The only help could be to wake-up quickly our Youth, beginning by a more appropriate education within the families and the schools, to tell them the REAL situation and explain to them that we could pay hard our stupid frivolousness.
Just a pray: please, avoid to start some of those old fossil accusatory motions about a presumed racism because this is absolutely NOT a racism, nor religious, nor political matter. Better a honest egoism matter, yes, because I'd simply like that our occidental civilization can save itself and continue for centuries, but in this case it's "safe" egoism, or not? Even if totally useless, I guess.
Ah, BTW, what the Romans should do to face a problem like this?
Valete, and sorry for the momentary pessimism folks!
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TITVS/Daniele Sabatini
... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
