02-06-2007, 12:43 PM
Greetings, Harry,
No name. The entire citation (p. 56 of the above cited book) reads as follows:
A ninth-century chronicler at the German monestary of Fulda give another aspect of this same story [Saxons migrating out of Britain]. Speaking of 'Saxons' living north of Unstrut, he explains that they are descended from Angles forced out of Britain by the need for new land. They joined the Frankish king Theuderich in a war fought in 531 and he gave them a conquered area to live in. The area which the monk has in mind is [was?] still known as Engilin.
That help?
I had understood that the Salian Franks were just those who remained east of the Rhine when Clovis et al. moved west and set up housekeeping in what became France. Is that incorrect? They were two distinct groups?
I suspect that tribal grouping and identification was not so rigid in those days as we try to make national identification today, hence all the discussions elsewhere on RAT.com about who are or are not Celts, Romans, etc.
No name. The entire citation (p. 56 of the above cited book) reads as follows:
A ninth-century chronicler at the German monestary of Fulda give another aspect of this same story [Saxons migrating out of Britain]. Speaking of 'Saxons' living north of Unstrut, he explains that they are descended from Angles forced out of Britain by the need for new land. They joined the Frankish king Theuderich in a war fought in 531 and he gave them a conquered area to live in. The area which the monk has in mind is [was?] still known as Engilin.
That help?
I had understood that the Salian Franks were just those who remained east of the Rhine when Clovis et al. moved west and set up housekeeping in what became France. Is that incorrect? They were two distinct groups?
I suspect that tribal grouping and identification was not so rigid in those days as we try to make national identification today, hence all the discussions elsewhere on RAT.com about who are or are not Celts, Romans, etc.
"Fugit irreparabile tempus" (Irrecoverable time glides away) Virgil
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