04-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Jim
First I hope to keep this out of the relm of polotics, but it is hard when you try and compare problems from one nation to another.
You know massacres are just as rare here as over there right? Europe has had sword massacres too, we have not. There is also the fact illegal guns are in every place, ban guns from legal sale and he would just have bought one illegally. For instance Columbine had an illegal pistol, neither of those boys was old enough to purchase a pistol but they got one on the streets not from home. Making drugs illegal has not made them unavailable.
DC has a gun ban and one of the worst murder rates in the country, it used to be the worst even with the ban.
Really if we wanted to make a law that would stop this guy from buying a gun we need one that puts mental patients on the list of ineligible to buy guns, but those who would ban guns would go nuts if you invaded his privacy.
Also the worst massacres in the USA and UK have been done with bombs so I do not see how banning guns helps make me any safer.
Now for the cold hard facts, last massacre like this was almost 10 years ago in the USA and was smaller, so 32 for 10 years. Today alone 130 plus people will die from smoking related illness and nearly 100 in traffic accidents, why don’t we ban those things? Summer is almost here, the state of CA has more children drown in pools in a year than the entire country will have children killed by guns this year; where is the outcry against pools?
If I recall Jim you felt the sword ban was silly yet there are plenty of murders and a I believe a massacre committed with a sword in your country, why is a sword ban sillier than a gun ban? Guns and swords are only tools.
Valerius
Sure I was picked on by people in school; I was a fat punk rocker, I just found them irrelevant who cares what those people think.
First I hope to keep this out of the relm of polotics, but it is hard when you try and compare problems from one nation to another.
You know massacres are just as rare here as over there right? Europe has had sword massacres too, we have not. There is also the fact illegal guns are in every place, ban guns from legal sale and he would just have bought one illegally. For instance Columbine had an illegal pistol, neither of those boys was old enough to purchase a pistol but they got one on the streets not from home. Making drugs illegal has not made them unavailable.
DC has a gun ban and one of the worst murder rates in the country, it used to be the worst even with the ban.
Really if we wanted to make a law that would stop this guy from buying a gun we need one that puts mental patients on the list of ineligible to buy guns, but those who would ban guns would go nuts if you invaded his privacy.
Also the worst massacres in the USA and UK have been done with bombs so I do not see how banning guns helps make me any safer.
Now for the cold hard facts, last massacre like this was almost 10 years ago in the USA and was smaller, so 32 for 10 years. Today alone 130 plus people will die from smoking related illness and nearly 100 in traffic accidents, why don’t we ban those things? Summer is almost here, the state of CA has more children drown in pools in a year than the entire country will have children killed by guns this year; where is the outcry against pools?
If I recall Jim you felt the sword ban was silly yet there are plenty of murders and a I believe a massacre committed with a sword in your country, why is a sword ban sillier than a gun ban? Guns and swords are only tools.
Valerius
Sure I was picked on by people in school; I was a fat punk rocker, I just found them irrelevant who cares what those people think.
James Barker
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