05-31-2007, 10:46 PM
Thanks, Giannis, but I am still not convinced your translation is correct - though I hasten to add I am no Greek speaker, either classical or modern!
It seems to me you have taken the original greek phrases out of order, to arrive at your suggested meaning. This may be due to the difficulties of translating twice - classical greek to modern greek to English !!
The translations I have read "....could sling further than the persian slingers, and even further than most of their archers." (Rex Warner, Penguin edition) and "....carried farther with their missiles than the Persians, farther even than the bowmen." (Carleton Brownson, Loeb edition ) seem to me to be more accurate.
Would anyone with a better Classical Greek than mine care to comment ?
Thank you also Giannis for pointing out that the Persian slingers were stone- armed. Xenophon specifically remarks on their large size at iii.17.
But just to muddy the waters, shortly after the passage under debate, Xenophon says "A number of bow-strings were found in the villages and some lead also which could be used for the slings." So the Persians certainly had lead available to them, if they chose to use it.
It seems to me you have taken the original greek phrases out of order, to arrive at your suggested meaning. This may be due to the difficulties of translating twice - classical greek to modern greek to English !!
The translations I have read "....could sling further than the persian slingers, and even further than most of their archers." (Rex Warner, Penguin edition) and "....carried farther with their missiles than the Persians, farther even than the bowmen." (Carleton Brownson, Loeb edition ) seem to me to be more accurate.
Would anyone with a better Classical Greek than mine care to comment ?
Thank you also Giannis for pointing out that the Persian slingers were stone- armed. Xenophon specifically remarks on their large size at iii.17.
But just to muddy the waters, shortly after the passage under debate, Xenophon says "A number of bow-strings were found in the villages and some lead also which could be used for the slings." So the Persians certainly had lead available to them, if they chose to use it.
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(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
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