North British Warrior

[Medicus matt]

And by the time the Saxons identified them as "weals" (Welsh), meaning foreigners (to their own Saxon culture), these Celts were calling themselves "Cymry."

Well, some of them were...possibly...
Yes, it's used in Y Gododdin but the only copy we've got of that is from the 13th century and half of it is written in Middle Welsh. I don't doubt that the poem is an ancient one, perhaps even written within living memory of the battle, but what's come down to us is a (for want of a better word) translation.

Until the 12th century, the word 'Brythoniaid' is just as (if not more) common than Cymry. And Combrogi may still be in use as it's a Brythonic word rather than a welsh one.

Do you think we're allowed to keep going with all this early medieval stuff here? Won't the guys with little swords and toothbrushes on their helmets come to throw us out? :wink: