03-04-2008, 10:44 PM
Diegis, that book you referred to is a perfect example of flawed secondary information - it is riddled with errors, and is simply a re-hash of flawed information, without any proper research carried out.
It is not correct that the Bastarnae were not around in the 1st century AD.
Robert wrote:-
Both the Column and Adamklissi were clearly designed to be "read" by their audiences, and to that end, the depictions on it had to be 'stereotypes', whether of soldiers or different peoples, which is why the same 'type' repeatedly appears. On both monuments, three distinct types of dress can be discerned that 'marry up' with the Dacians and their Bastarnae and Sarmatian allies, and are easily recognisable even to 'moderns'. The germanic Bastarnae wear what the Romans thought of as 'germanic' garb - loose trousers, bare chested, bearded and even hair tied in that most distinctive german 'Suebian knot' . Only warriors of this type wield two-handed falxes, and are quite distinct from depictions of Dacians.......This has been the accepted and settled view of scholars on the subject for well over 100 years.
It is not correct that the Bastarnae were not around in the 1st century AD.
Robert wrote:-
Quote:How do we know from the monuments that they show Bastarnae?....I will treat this as a serious question and answer it, though it has the ring of a mere 'doubting Thomas' about it......
Both the Column and Adamklissi were clearly designed to be "read" by their audiences, and to that end, the depictions on it had to be 'stereotypes', whether of soldiers or different peoples, which is why the same 'type' repeatedly appears. On both monuments, three distinct types of dress can be discerned that 'marry up' with the Dacians and their Bastarnae and Sarmatian allies, and are easily recognisable even to 'moderns'. The germanic Bastarnae wear what the Romans thought of as 'germanic' garb - loose trousers, bare chested, bearded and even hair tied in that most distinctive german 'Suebian knot' . Only warriors of this type wield two-handed falxes, and are quite distinct from depictions of Dacians.......This has been the accepted and settled view of scholars on the subject for well over 100 years.
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
