The Falx

[diegis]

Ah, you misunderstand, Magnus....I am well aware that no-one who argues a point is generally prepared to shift.
The purpose of the 'posts' and 'debate' is not to try and convince the other guy ( immovable, as you say ), but rather to set out different points of view so that the audience can read and make up their own minds..........

Diegis/Anton wrote:-

I hope you will not try now to cross your gladius with my dacian falx

.....sica perhaps! No Dacian is shown with a two-handed falx! :lol: :lol:

Well, the images on the site i present you show clearly falx warriors wearing the "phrygian" ( not "panonian", again, i dont know why you named like that, it looks like your knowledges is not that extended in this matter ? ) type of cap, who is specific to dacian "tarabostes" ( or "pileati" ), dacian nobles, the same represented in other monuments as well, and have nothing to do with bastarnae.

My error.....a slip of the fingers !! :oops: Dacian tarabostes/pileati wear "Phrygian" caps, not the cylindrical type worn by late Romans and called 'Pannonian'. However, I have clear images of all the Adamklissi metopes and no phrygian caps are shown on any of the metopes. I suspect you have mis-interpreted some showing hair tied back smoothly, with a suebian knot, as 'phrygian caps', and although many of the metopes are damaged, they are clear enough on this point. Similarly, none of the Bastarnae on the column wear 'phrygian caps'.
Even if they were, your argument is wrong, because 'phrygian caps' were not unique to Dacians - as the name alone tells you - such caps being widespread in the Mediterranean world at this time.

Well, sometimes, i believe you have something against dacians, and try to diminsh their realizations or importance, i dont know why ?

Not at all, indeed I'm very fond of them ! Trajan's wars are one of my favourite subjects.....and the Dacians. Equally, one doesn't want to attribute to them something ( the two-handed falx) for which there is simply no credible evidence.
Unfortunately, lazy and unthinking writers have simply copied this 'myth', often not even realising that the Bastarnae were not a Dacian tribe and were independent ( most likely), and that only they are ever depicted with the two-handed falx.

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Well, it seems we have diferent views on this matter, and we will keep saying our point of view. In the site as present you are somewhere behind, in other post, are depicted falxmen warriors, who wear a cap who is similar with one of dacians from other monuments and they are considered dacians by foreign authors, not just romanians, contrary with your opinion that is a general view to see them as bastarnae ( wich you dont present yet any proof, nor at least 2-3 mistakes from that book, wich you just keep saying is wrong, without any prouves ). Look again to that link, and then to this statues of dacians from Italy museums . http://www.formula-as.ro/2007/759/socie ... -roma-7791 http://www.formula-as.ro/2007/759/socie ... -roma-7791 http://www.alexradescu.ro/wp-content/up ... 3/8186.jpg http://www.alexradescu.ro/wp-content/up ... /81851.jpg Yes, the cap was weared by others too ( is named "phrygian" for a reason ), but i dont think that warriors are phrygians or parthians, for ex. If you wish to see in other way, is your opinion, and i will not force you to believe otherwise. Others will choose what they think on this problem, so, if you wish, we can move to problems you find at that book, for ex.