05-18-2008, 10:50 PM
Tarbicus/Jim wrote:-
Worth bearing in mind though that under the judicial system of the English -speaking world, the Judge would direct said Jury to acquit, because all the evidence is circumstantial ( no witnesses), and there is no "proof beyond reasonable doubt."
Exit a smiling Octavian, hailed by Aggrippa and Maecenas, and proclaiming to the crowd that his 'trial' had "proved" his innocence", as happens so often in modern times. :roll:
( Being found 'not guilty' because of a high standard of proof demanded in criminal matters is not the same as 'innocent' at all ....which is why I like the old Scottish system of three possible verdicts, viz, 'Guilty', '
'Not Guilty' or 'Not Proven'.
Our system is based on "Better ten guilty men walk free than one innocent man suffer"! )
But we on RAT need not bind ourselves to such high-minded rules!
Anyone care to set up a poll. so a RAT 'Historical Jury' can deliver a verdict ?
)
Quote:but if I was on a jury I'd probably go with a murder conviction.....and were I on that Jury, I would vote 'guilty' too !! :wink:
Worth bearing in mind though that under the judicial system of the English -speaking world, the Judge would direct said Jury to acquit, because all the evidence is circumstantial ( no witnesses), and there is no "proof beyond reasonable doubt."
Exit a smiling Octavian, hailed by Aggrippa and Maecenas, and proclaiming to the crowd that his 'trial' had "proved" his innocence", as happens so often in modern times. :roll:
( Being found 'not guilty' because of a high standard of proof demanded in criminal matters is not the same as 'innocent' at all ....which is why I like the old Scottish system of three possible verdicts, viz, 'Guilty', '
'Not Guilty' or 'Not Proven'.
Our system is based on "Better ten guilty men walk free than one innocent man suffer"! )
But we on RAT need not bind ourselves to such high-minded rules!
Anyone care to set up a poll. so a RAT 'Historical Jury' can deliver a verdict ?
)
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
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(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
