02-01-2009, 05:16 PM
Hey both of you and thanks for replying!
I thought the urnfield culture was generally seen as the predecessor to the hallstatt culture.
Interesting info about the various tribes in the area, thanks.
Regarding the swords, I have been reading some of professor Quesada's articles and he seems to have classified the spanish shortswords in type I to type VI.
Does anyone have the paper in which he specifies these classifications and gives physical data regarding the different types. I am especially interested in type VI arcobriga and the blade length of this type. I am also hunting professor Quesada's 1997d article about the origin of the gladius hispaniensis.
I've been looking at the photos of the "El Atance" sword, which seems to be a kind of intermediate of the la tene I swords that were imported and the shorter celtiberian leaf bladed swords(Quesada type V-VI). All the imported la tene I examples from spain that I have seen seem to have had organic hilts while the celtiberian short sword always seem to have metal hilts.
This is one of the reasons why I find the "El Atance" sword interesting, it has a longer blade but what looks like a metal hilt. All the gladius hispaniensis examples I have seen have organic hilts. Are these observations correct or am I mistaken?
I've seen the the use of "fronton type swords" before, how does these relate to the quesada classification? Or is it just a generalized expression for the spanish leaf-bladed short sword? I saw the fronton(I presume it is a region for a find in spain?) type on one picture displayed as a separate form of the celtiberian leaf-bladed short sword. What makes the above drawing a fronton type sword?
I'll be trying to get vol. 8 then
Cheers,
Jesper
I thought the urnfield culture was generally seen as the predecessor to the hallstatt culture.
Interesting info about the various tribes in the area, thanks.
Regarding the swords, I have been reading some of professor Quesada's articles and he seems to have classified the spanish shortswords in type I to type VI.
Does anyone have the paper in which he specifies these classifications and gives physical data regarding the different types. I am especially interested in type VI arcobriga and the blade length of this type. I am also hunting professor Quesada's 1997d article about the origin of the gladius hispaniensis.
I've been looking at the photos of the "El Atance" sword, which seems to be a kind of intermediate of the la tene I swords that were imported and the shorter celtiberian leaf bladed swords(Quesada type V-VI). All the imported la tene I examples from spain that I have seen seem to have had organic hilts while the celtiberian short sword always seem to have metal hilts.
This is one of the reasons why I find the "El Atance" sword interesting, it has a longer blade but what looks like a metal hilt. All the gladius hispaniensis examples I have seen have organic hilts. Are these observations correct or am I mistaken?
I've seen the the use of "fronton type swords" before, how does these relate to the quesada classification? Or is it just a generalized expression for the spanish leaf-bladed short sword? I saw the fronton(I presume it is a region for a find in spain?) type on one picture displayed as a separate form of the celtiberian leaf-bladed short sword. What makes the above drawing a fronton type sword?
I'll be trying to get vol. 8 then
Cheers,
Jesper
Cheers,
Jesper
Jesper
