08-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Quote:I already have the Roman defeat in Germany as a partial exception. Rome did return but not immediatly and not to conquer but to punish.I think that the winter saved Germany; but when the spring came, Tiberius retaliated - I think that we might call that an immediate response. "Carrhae" may be a better example: five eagles lost (if I recall correctly) in 53, and no response until 44 - but Caesar was assassinated.
Other lost legions: XIIII in 54/53, destroyed by the Eburones, who were themselves destroyed within 300 days. There's evidence for this genocidal response, because pollen research shows that the area became empty.
The Clades Lolliana: the Sugambri take the eagle of V Alaudae, in 16 BC.
V Alaudae and XV Primegina surrendered to the Gallic Empire in early 70; immediate response.
XXI Rapax was destroyed by Decebalus; immediate response.
Perhaps XXII Deiotoriana was destroyed during the Bar Kochba revolt; immediate response.
In 161, the Parthians destroyed a legion (perhaps VIIII Hispana); Lucius Verus immediately counterattacked.
