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greek armours
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Dan
Guilmartin cites extensively Payne-Gallwey work, for instance in note 9 about the Papal interdict
"The use of the crossbow against all but infidels was first interdicted under penalty of anathema by the Lateran Council in 1139. The prohibition was confirmed at the close of the twelfth century by Pope Innocent III, and Conrad III of Germany (1138-52) forbade its use in his territory. See Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey, The Crossbow (London, 1903), p. 3."
Again in note 13 on range

"Payne-Gallwey, The Crossbow, p. 10, gives 80-300 yards as a ‘moderate’ range for ‘the destruction of a single enemy’. When he says this, however, he is thinking primarily of penetrating power and not accuracy. Against a moving target on the battlefield we should shorten this considerably"
I think the question is efective range vs efective range. For instance the French Chassepot rifle had 1500 yards maximum range, but the maximum effective range was considered 300 yards. I think the same would be true for the crossbow, otherwise I don´t understand why it was replaced by the arquebus, with an admitted effective range of 30-40 yards.
AKA Inaki
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