09-15-2003, 09:21 PM
OK, I'm back again. I wanted to wash my hands of this thread, but this post just demanded a response. Sorry.<br>
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<<No, not at all, but from what I've read, quite a LOT of this art was done a couple of hundred years later, yes? I know you also do RevWar, so you tell me, how much artwork and stuff about RevWar is wrong today and that's what, only 228 years ago?? I am not calling these original sources liars, I am saying that alll of this is a perhaps, you are saying it is an absolutely NOT...>><br>
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(A) The art and literary alussions we're referring to are generally contemporaneous with the armor we're discussing.<br>
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(B) The evidence is meager and subject to interpretation, but what does exist suggests one thing: The Romans preferred a bright, shiny surface on their armor.<br>
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You can say "perhaps," to anything, but if you lack any primary evidence to back up your proposal, you're not theorizing or even properly speculating, you're fantasizing.<br>
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<<Hell, in relaity, has anybody ever even found a complete set of Lorica??>><br>
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Um, yes. Many (nearly) complete sets. Haven't you yet heard of the Corbridge Hoard?<br>
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<<I think the finds from Kalkriese are fascinating... I really DO wish they'd find some Roman soldier that fell into a bog somewhere...>><br>
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That would make all of our jobs easier (but maybe a lost less fun?).<br>
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<<Anyway, isn't reenacting more experimental archeology? I have always considered it thus and if you do, you try new and different things to see if it works. Academia is way too hidebound... If I only wanted to know what "scholars" thought, I'd just read the books and not reenact.>><br>
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It's because of the hard, painstaking archaeological and conservation work done by these "hidebound" scholars that we are able to even approximately recreate how Roman soldiers were equipped.<br>
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Experimental archaeology is not remotely "trying "new and different things to see if it works." It is recreating things found in a historical context as closely as possible to the originals, utlizing all the best evidence available, and then putting them to use to gain insights into how the ancients might have employed them.<br>
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What you are talking about is, again, historical fantasizing. If you don't like sticking to the known historical facts, try "reenacting" something like, say, Lord of the Rings.<br>
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T. Flavius Crispus<br>
Legio VI Victrix Pia Fidelis<br>
California, USA <p></p><i></i>
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<<No, not at all, but from what I've read, quite a LOT of this art was done a couple of hundred years later, yes? I know you also do RevWar, so you tell me, how much artwork and stuff about RevWar is wrong today and that's what, only 228 years ago?? I am not calling these original sources liars, I am saying that alll of this is a perhaps, you are saying it is an absolutely NOT...>><br>
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(A) The art and literary alussions we're referring to are generally contemporaneous with the armor we're discussing.<br>
<br>
(B) The evidence is meager and subject to interpretation, but what does exist suggests one thing: The Romans preferred a bright, shiny surface on their armor.<br>
<br>
You can say "perhaps," to anything, but if you lack any primary evidence to back up your proposal, you're not theorizing or even properly speculating, you're fantasizing.<br>
<br>
<<Hell, in relaity, has anybody ever even found a complete set of Lorica??>><br>
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Um, yes. Many (nearly) complete sets. Haven't you yet heard of the Corbridge Hoard?<br>
<br>
<<I think the finds from Kalkriese are fascinating... I really DO wish they'd find some Roman soldier that fell into a bog somewhere...>><br>
<br>
That would make all of our jobs easier (but maybe a lost less fun?).<br>
<br>
<<Anyway, isn't reenacting more experimental archeology? I have always considered it thus and if you do, you try new and different things to see if it works. Academia is way too hidebound... If I only wanted to know what "scholars" thought, I'd just read the books and not reenact.>><br>
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It's because of the hard, painstaking archaeological and conservation work done by these "hidebound" scholars that we are able to even approximately recreate how Roman soldiers were equipped.<br>
<br>
Experimental archaeology is not remotely "trying "new and different things to see if it works." It is recreating things found in a historical context as closely as possible to the originals, utlizing all the best evidence available, and then putting them to use to gain insights into how the ancients might have employed them.<br>
<br>
What you are talking about is, again, historical fantasizing. If you don't like sticking to the known historical facts, try "reenacting" something like, say, Lord of the Rings.<br>
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T. Flavius Crispus<br>
Legio VI Victrix Pia Fidelis<br>
California, USA <p></p><i></i>
T. Flavius Crispus / David S. Michaels
Centurio Pilus Prior,
Legio VI VPF
CA, USA
"Oderint dum probent."
Tiberius
Centurio Pilus Prior,
Legio VI VPF
CA, USA
"Oderint dum probent."
Tiberius
